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Post by Hunain0 » October 17, 2018, 7:18 pm
+1111 because i dont like annoy player
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Post by Hunain0 » October 17, 2018, 7:21 pm
Immortal wrote:
Ls-rcr's playerbase will just drop from 50-60 avg to 30-40. Is it really that hard to just /ignore the player? It really doesn't make any sense to ban people for asking for rights, definitely a BIG negative from me. Just use /ignore or talk with him in a polite and calm way and explain him since you're a rolemodel. I'm even for removing this rule because there's no logic behind it.

This goes to every group leader.
you are only come in server for afk only if some one pmed you you dont see beacuse you are goiing only afk so asked the group owner who feel hurt like me like flash like killer like ackman like playa like dollarman like cena like heisen berg like sowhat like .......
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Post by ackman » October 17, 2018, 7:22 pm
Immortal wrote:
Ls-rcr's playerbase will just drop from 50-60 avg to 30-40. Is it really that hard to just /ignore the player? It really doesn't make any sense to ban people for asking for rights, definitely a BIG negative from me. Just use /ignore or talk with him in a polite and calm way and explain him since you're a rolemodel. I'm even for removing this rule because there's no logic behind it.

This goes to every group leader.
Only If /ignore was just the case...

Well, they keep following you, ram you and whisper 'give regata'.. Constantly following to annoy. They totally ruin our gameplay, I legit can't play a moment as cop because of these guys, even in my previous army test they were following me and whispering me to give them rights. Sadly, /ignore and /pmoff isn't the solution. I even tell them not to ask for rights in their national language, yet they still ask for them.
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Post by Immortal » October 17, 2018, 7:28 pm
ackman wrote:
Immortal wrote:
Ls-rcr's playerbase will just drop from 50-60 avg to 30-40. Is it really that hard to just /ignore the player? It really doesn't make any sense to ban people for asking for rights, definitely a BIG negative from me. Just use /ignore or talk with him in a polite and calm way and explain him since you're a rolemodel. I'm even for removing this rule because there's no logic behind it.

This goes to every group leader.
Only If /ignore was just the case...

Well, they keep following you, ram you and whisper 'give regata'.. Constantly following to annoy. They totally ruin our gameplay, I legit can't play a moment as cop because of these guys, even in my previous army test they were following me and whispering me to give them rights. Sadly, /ignore and /pmoff isn't the solution. I even tell them not to ask for rights in their national language, yet they still ask for them.
How would banning actually solve the problem? You'll forbid them to play for 3 days, then what? You'll keep banning them or you'll ban them perm? Doesn't solve the problem, no.

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Post by Luka » October 17, 2018, 9:55 pm
Immortal wrote:
Flash wrote:
They get punished, jailed/warned but it still has no effect on them.
If jailing and warning has no effect, banning them will make it even worse. People who usually ask me for rights have zero English knowledge nor they understand any message I send to them, so obviously banning won't help. Imagine yourself as a newcomer, you just wanna enter some group and spend some time with other group members but you don't know what a forum is or even where to apply so you just ask a leader in-game (considering they are literally 10 year old and have no English knowledge whatsoever). If an experienced player asks you repeatedly, then reporting him would be fine as long as you warn him few times verbally yourself.

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Basically this, most of these guys are very young with lack of English knowledge, all they want is the group rights to have fun and stuff, and to be honest that's group leaders' fault at some point, because they give rights randomly to players and this leads to others asking for it and think they can get them easily too. I know group leaders have all the right to give out ranks but still, you can't expect a 10 years old who just joined the server with very bad English knowledge to understand what you are saying, as i said all they wants are rights, nothing else.

Though it can get annoying still, the rule was created to reduce the "pain" for group leaders as much as possible, we are usually going a bit easy then usual on such matters because of what i just above, they simply cannot understand.

In my opinion tho group leaders should control their management in terms of giving away rights so often to many players.

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Post by Mastro » October 17, 2018, 11:01 pm
I agree with Luka here.

I think it's mainly group leaders' fault. We can't just give temp rights to random players for x y reasons and then expect the rest to stay completely silent. Official groups should stay professional and stop doing this, at least not that often. You are basically breaking the rules of your own group when you give rights to players that haven't applied at all. At least that's what I believe. It's your own group, you have the rights to do anything you wish as long as you stay within the server rules but there should be some limits. Not to mention that is very unfair for other players who don't get those temps.

But too much damage has heen caused already and I don't think there is much we can do. I don't really remember anyone asking for group rights 3 years ago, at least not that frequently.

Those players that ask for rights are too young and can barely build an english sentence. They can't understand why it's not allowed, why they get punished etc.

When they joined the server for the first time none of them knew what "temp rights" means, or that they could even ask for rights without applying. We taught them everything.

Banning them for that won't help at all since they can't understand. Only solution is to eventually permanently stop giving away temp rights. Let them apply for your groups, whether it's your best friend or the most skilled player on the server. That's the main purpose of an official group. You have to fight for a rank, not just get it with zero effort, even for 10 minutes.
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Post by Robin » October 17, 2018, 11:06 pm
Mastro wrote:
You can't just give temp rights to random players for x y reasons and then expect the rest to stay silent.
To those asking why factions don't give out temps that often ^

And yeah, Mastro does have a point.
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Post by Elite » October 18, 2018, 8:33 am
man you feel really important huh

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Post by KKC » October 18, 2018, 10:38 am
I'm agreed with Luka and Mastro here.

When ever I'm spawned as Absynth crew as a high rank there, they just think he can give away rights and they keep spamming after telling them that I just can't give away rights to anyone or I'm not leader of any group. But they never understand me and keep spamming me due to lack of their English knowledge so yeah, banning them for that won't help at all since they can't understand. All I do is /pmoff and ignore them if i ever get annoy.
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Post by Faraon78910 » October 18, 2018, 11:01 am
Hunain0 wrote:
Immortal wrote:
Ls-rcr's playerbase will just drop from 50-60 avg to 30-40. Is it really that hard to just /ignore the player? It really doesn't make any sense to ban people for asking for rights, definitely a BIG negative from me. Just use /ignore or talk with him in a polite and calm way and explain him since you're a rolemodel. I'm even for removing this rule because there's no logic behind it.

This goes to every group leader.
you are only come in server for afk only if some one pmed you you dont see beacuse you are goiing only afk so asked the group owner who feel hurt like me like flash like killer like ackman like playa like dollarman like cena like heisen berg like sowhat like .......
lmaoooo
immortal has a point
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