Adding shocks for army back [DENIED]

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Jostafa

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Post by Jostafa » May 16, 2019, 11:51 am
Ok Don't wann Add Sh ok Add Army Can't Cuff Coz is Criminal play Duel in Army wann Cuff And Criminal wann sh Criminal now Can't Sh ok Add Army Can't Cuff 1+

Where is justice in this?


Remove cuff or Add Sh
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Post by David » May 16, 2019, 2:20 pm
Nostafa wrote:
Ok Don't wann Add Sh ok Add Army Can't Cuff Coz is Criminal play Duel in Army wann Cuff And Criminal wann sh Criminal now Can't Sh ok Add Army Can't Cuff 1+

Where is justice in this?


Remove cuff or Add Sh
@Nostafa, you have no clue what are you talking about, lmao.
Don't understand what is the issue here, it's fine.
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Post by [MOB]ibrar.123 » May 16, 2019, 10:04 pm
David wrote:
Nostafa wrote:
Ok Don't wann Add Sh ok Add Army Can't Cuff Coz is Criminal play Duel in Army wann Cuff And Criminal wann sh Criminal now Can't Sh ok Add Army Can't Cuff 1+

Where is justice in this?


Remove cuff or Add Sh
@Nostafa, you have no clue what are you talking about, lmao.
Don't understand what is the issue here, it's fine.
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Just making it clear what he is trying to say is make it balanced or either remove cuffs from army class.
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Post by Whiskey » May 20, 2019, 11:16 am
I like to take strolls back to the times of the past and before shocks were ever a thing, the concept of CnR worked pretty well. In the case of Army showing up back in the day, it was either you try to escape, fight them and hope you'll make it out or die trying. That's what made it interesting and more fun. When shocks were added, it heavily countered the entire foundation and concept of Army as a faction, forcing it to resort to commands themselves in order to counter the shocks and admittely, live out the frustration of being perma stunned due to shocks and being unable to play the skin that relies on usage of weapons rather than commands.

People ran from Army and for a reason and the moment that was turned around, it became problematic from my point of view as that's not how it's supposed to be in a cops & robbers server.

Those 'newbies' & 'low skilled players' were going to stay on that level due to using only shocks to get kills. If you only rely on shocks to get kills, how do these 'newbies' and others expect to improve in the first place if the only faction that did offer considerable shooting & dueling challenge had been stripped from it's ability to do exactly what they had been originally designed for.

If you can't win, you improve. It also goes to LEOs and Armies, especially new ones who face the exact same issue at first. It doesnt only apply to criminals.

When it comes to reality, Armies or military forces are orientated towards taking out targets. Shocks changed that concept, making them arrest more instead, essentially creating another police group with purple colour.

Once again, long time ago with less snowflakey individuals, people barely complained. Nowdays it seems to be a problem when an alteration is made to make Army play more by it's original design which is to be deadly LEO force in the server. When shocks were added and Armies started arresting more, then people had a problem with Armies arresting more and killing less. So when shocking ability was removed and Armies could focus more on killing again, that itself became a problem again(??).

I've been an Army member since late 2011. The Army I joined was the version I probably enjoyed the most. The addition of shocks and the effect it had on Army as a faction was something that became increasingly worriesome & frustrating for me to witness as someone who has been part of the faction for so long. The idea of removing shocks in exchange of taze was to restore Army's ability to play as they're supposed to and take Army back to the day's it was able to operate the way they're meant to operate - guns blazing. Keep in mind that the removal of tase alone was a kind gesture on our part, considering that Army always had access to tase back then as well but we came forward for the criminals and decided to remove it as well.

This is not going to be changed or altered, it's here to stay. It's time to adapt to the old new reality of Army being Army again, just like it was times ago. It has always been indented to be a deadly force and fighting against this faction & it's players shouldn't be easy in the first place.
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