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BossK wrote:

There is a lot of proof in the Qu'ran, that Islam is the right religion. Every single book has been changes except the Qu'ran. If you think you need science to prove it, read this: http://www.freewebs.com/proofofislam/sc ... equran.htm

"It is a great miracle that these facts, which could not possibly be discovered, without the technology of the 20th century, were explicitly stated in the Qur’an 1400 years ago."

Even if you don't read the website, just click on it and look at how small the scroll thingy is on the right side of the screen and that's probably not everything as well. That website is concrete evidence.

Actually you can use this logic to conclude that other religions are the right ones. Ancient Egyptian priests were able to conclude that Sirus is a binary star system long before science did (20th century). In fact, they were able to discover and accurately predict movements of astral objects which were impossible to be even seen with their technology. They must have had access to higher knowledge or technology to be able to know those things. So I guess we can argue that Amon Ra is the true god based on this "proof"?...

Of course not. Trying to declare one religion as the right using "proof" is ridiculous. It's the right one for you because you believe in it, there isn't any proof that can assure you it's the right religion, you just have to believe. Instead of denying everything other religions say try actually to listen and understand them. You will understand your religion better if you understand other religions.

*Sunday* wrote:

BossK wrote:

There is a lot of proof in the Qu'ran, that Islam is the right religion. Every single book has been changes except the Qu'ran. If you think you need science to prove it, read this: http://www.freewebs.com/proofofislam/sc ... equran.htm

"It is a great miracle that these facts, which could not possibly be discovered, without the technology of the 20th century, were explicitly stated in the Qur’an 1400 years ago."

Even if you don't read the website, just click on it and look at how small the scroll thingy is on the right side of the screen and that's probably not everything as well. That website is concrete evidence.

Actually you can use this logic to conclude that other religions are the right ones. Ancient Egyptian priests were able to conclude that Sirus is a binary star system long before science did (20th century). In fact, they were able to discover and accurately predict movements of astral objects which were impossible to be even seen with their technology. They must have had access to higher knowledge or technology to be able to know those things. So I guess we can argue that Amon Ra is the true god based on this "proof"?...

Of course not. Trying to declare one religion as the right using "proof" is ridiculous. It's the right one for you because you believe in it, there isn't any proof that can assure you it's the right religion, you just have to believe. Instead of denying everything other religions say try actually to listen and understand them. You will understand your religion better if you understand other religions.

Yeah, the Qu'ran mentioned this 1400 years ago. I didn't deny other religions. I respect all other religions, as Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) has told us to do. You're trying to twist my words.

BossK wrote:

*Sunday* wrote:

BossK wrote:

There is a lot of proof in the Qu'ran, that Islam is the right religion. Every single book has been changes except the Qu'ran. If you think you need science to prove it, read this: http://www.freewebs.com/proofofislam/sc ... equran.htm

"It is a great miracle that these facts, which could not possibly be discovered, without the technology of the 20th century, were explicitly stated in the Qur’an 1400 years ago."

Even if you don't read the website, just click on it and look at how small the scroll thingy is on the right side of the screen and that's probably not everything as well. That website is concrete evidence.

Actually you can use this logic to conclude that other religions are the right ones. Ancient Egyptian priests were able to conclude that Sirus is a binary star system long before science did (20th century). In fact, they were able to discover and accurately predict movements of astral objects which were impossible to be even seen with their technology. They must have had access to higher knowledge or technology to be able to know those things. So I guess we can argue that Amon Ra is the true god based on this "proof"?...

Of course not. Trying to declare one religion as the right using "proof" is ridiculous. It's the right one for you because you believe in it, there isn't any proof that can assure you it's the right religion, you just have to believe. Instead of denying everything other religions say try actually to listen and understand them. You will understand your religion better if you understand other religions.

I didn't deny other religions. I respect all other religions, as Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) has told us to do. You're trying to twist my words.

You said "Islam is the right religion". That automatically means other religions are wrong. I understand that you respect other religions but I also believe you don't consider them to be "right", since Islam is the only true faith for you. In fact, when Muhammad was travelling Christian lands he learnt about Christianity and that's what originally inspired him to create Islam. I'm not saying he "stole" the idea but only that Christianity gave him the idea since that was the first time he sees a religion which worships one God. And where does Christianity come from? Roots in Judaism. And Judaism? From an Egyptian monotheistic cult and other influences. And you can draw connections between those cults and other major religions like Hinduism. What I'm trying to say here is that all religions are pretty much connected and have almost the same background and origins. We all believe in the same things but we just have different ways to explain them.

*Sunday* wrote:

You said "Islam is the right religion". That automatically means other religions are wrong. I understand that you respect other religions but I also believe you don't consider them to be "right", since Islam is the only true faith for you. In fact, when Muhammad was travelling Christian lands he learnt about Christianity and that's what originally inspired him to create Islam. I'm not saying he "stole" the idea but only that Christianity gave him the idea since that was the first time he sees a religion which worships one God. And where does Christianity come from? Roots in Judaism. And Judaism? From an Egyptian monotheistic cult and other influences. And you can draw connections between those cults and other major religions like Hinduism. What I'm trying to say here is that all religions are pretty much connected and have almost the same background and origins. We all believe in the same things but we just have different ways to explain them.

People who believe in GOD are people with weak mentality. These are the people who "seek help" from a non-existing "spirit", also called GOD and they think that he would somehow be able to "heal" them "cure " them from any disease or help them differently, it doesn't really matter.

[Lsrcr]Blind wrote:

People who believe in GOD are people with weak mentality. These are the people who "seek help" from a non-existing "spirit", also called GOD and they think that he would somehow be able to "heal" them "cure " them from any disease or help them differently, it doesn't really matter.

You're wrong there. There is people living their lives just fine and don't need to be "cured" or "seek help" as you state. I'm one of those people that has no problem at all with anything, be it some sort of sickness, money, family or anything. But I still belive, and it's not because I'm "weak". In fact, it shows that people with no belief at all(atheists) seem to be more depressed than belivers and more hopeless.. Their lives are based on living and then just dying, without any real reason to why we exist. We belive because it's logical what has been said about god and because we pretty much don't think we are just existing without any reason behind it. There must be a reason and I think what has been said in the Quran is logical enough so I chose to belive and follow my religion, in a hope to reach a better place after life.

[Lsrcr]Blind wrote:

*Sunday* wrote:

You said "Islam is the right religion". That automatically means other religions are wrong. I understand that you respect other religions but I also believe you don't consider them to be "right", since Islam is the only true faith for you. In fact, when Muhammad was travelling Christian lands he learnt about Christianity and that's what originally inspired him to create Islam. I'm not saying he "stole" the idea but only that Christianity gave him the idea since that was the first time he sees a religion which worships one God. And where does Christianity come from? Roots in Judaism. And Judaism? From an Egyptian monotheistic cult and other influences. And you can draw connections between those cults and other major religions like Hinduism. What I'm trying to say here is that all religions are pretty much connected and have almost the same background and origins. We all believe in the same things but we just have different ways to explain them.

People who believe in GOD are people with weak mentality. These are the people who "seek help" from a non-existing "spirit", also called GOD and they think that he would somehow be able to "heal" them "cure " them from any disease or help them differently, it doesn't really matter.

67.3 percent of people who were trying to suicide are non-believers. I am not sure, but your post shows no logic.

Dudes chillout, no need to turn this into "who has better life, atheists or theists". Everyone has the right to choice and also a reason to be believe or not in God, so yeah keep it real bros.

*Sunday* wrote:

You said "Islam is the right religion". That automatically means other religions are wrong. I understand that you respect other religions but I also believe you don't consider them to be "right", since Islam is the only true faith for you. In fact, when Muhammad was travelling Christian lands he learnt about Christianity and that's what originally inspired him to create Islam. I'm not saying he "stole" the idea but only that Christianity gave him the idea since that was the first time he sees a religion which worships one God. And where does Christianity come from? Roots in Judaism. And Judaism? From an Egyptian monotheistic cult and other influences. And you can draw connections between those cults and other major religions like Hinduism. What I'm trying to say here is that all religions are pretty much connected and have almost the same background and origins. We all believe in the same things but we just have different ways to explain them.

When I said, "Islam is the right religion" it is a total opinion. I really don't mind if you think Christianity is the right religion, it's your opinion. And yes, in my mind other religions are wrong.

*Sunday* wrote:

In fact, when Muhammad was travelling Christian lands he learnt about Christianity and that's what originally inspired him to create Islam. I'm not saying he "stole" the idea but only that Christianity gave him the idea since that was the first time he sees a religion which worships one God.

That's wrong. Muhammad (PBUH) was a messenger of Allah and brought the Qur'an to Earth. That's what I believe and he did not get the idea from Christianity, no idea where you got that from.

The bible has undergone major changes since it was original. The Qur'an on the other hand, hasn't been changed once and no one can change it. Why? There are millions of people who have memorized it. Qur'an also holds a miracle within itself. How can people memorize every single letter exactly the way it's supposed to be, not one dot extra or less. No one else can memorize another book as big as the Qur'an. Let's see someone who memorizes a Harry Potter book. Even though, the Qur'an is much longer.

BossK wrote:

*Sunday* wrote:

You said "Islam is the right religion". That automatically means other religions are wrong. I understand that you respect other religions but I also believe you don't consider them to be "right", since Islam is the only true faith for you. In fact, when Muhammad was travelling Christian lands he learnt about Christianity and that's what originally inspired him to create Islam. I'm not saying he "stole" the idea but only that Christianity gave him the idea since that was the first time he sees a religion which worships one God. And where does Christianity come from? Roots in Judaism. And Judaism? From an Egyptian monotheistic cult and other influences. And you can draw connections between those cults and other major religions like Hinduism. What I'm trying to say here is that all religions are pretty much connected and have almost the same background and origins. We all believe in the same things but we just have different ways to explain them.

When I said, "Islam is the right religion" it is a total opinion. I really don't mind if you think Christianity is the right religion, it's your opinion. And yes, in my mind other religions are wrong.

*Sunday* wrote:

In fact, when Muhammad was travelling Christian lands he learnt about Christianity and that's what originally inspired him to create Islam. I'm not saying he "stole" the idea but only that Christianity gave him the idea since that was the first time he sees a religion which worships one God.

That's wrong. Muhammad (PBUH) was a messenger of Allah and brought the Qur'an to Earth. That's what I believe and he did not get the idea from Christianity, no idea where you got that from.

The bible has undergone major changes since it was original. The Qur'an on the other hand, hasn't been changed once and no one can change it. Why? There are millions of people who have memorized it. Qur'an also holds a miracle within itself. How can people memorize every single letter exactly the way it's supposed to be, not one dot extra or less. No one else can memorize another book as big as the Qur'an. Let's see someone who memorizes a Harry Potter book. Even though, the Qur'an is much longer.

Muhammad was originally poor but everything changed when he gained wealth through his marriage. After gaining wealth he became a trader and traveled many Christian lands where he learnt about Christianity. After coming back from his journeys he starts preaching a new religion called Islam until he was forced to flee to Medina in 622. And I'm not putting down Islam by saying this in any way. You can say that Allah sent him on those journeys so he can learn about Allah (which Christians worship as well). So in a way Allah actually told him all about this by leading him through many lands and showing him what people believe in. This story can satisfy both Muslims and scientists since it makes sense for both.

The Qur'an hasn't been written by Muhammad himself. People have memorized his preaching and wrote it down. However, Qur'an has undergone some changes until the Calif didn't seal it and make a final version. Besides that, people make mistakes and don't always remember everything 100% correct so there's a big chance Muhammad said something similar but not exactly as in the Qur'an. And there are people who memorized the whole Bible, nothing new.

[Lsrcr]Blind wrote:

People who believe in GOD are people with weak mentality. These are the people who "seek help" from a non-existing "spirit", also called GOD and they think that he would somehow be able to "heal" them "cure " them from any disease or help them differently, it doesn't really matter.

That makes as much sense as me saying all people with fat stomachs are pregnant. Male and Female!

Generalizing billions of people you don't know shows that your mind is weaker than you thought, if you thought at all.

Then again, maybe it's tough to see that logic, Mr. Blind.




I mean, what if I told you your signature was very masonic (and it is) but you can't see that because you don't know? You have not studied masons to know their symbols. All your posts represent the masonic god lucifer and you don't even know it.That alone shows your credibility in these discussions.