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Post by Armin » December 23, 2013, 2:43 pm
Hi,I'm a muslim and sometimes I get the feeling that religion doesn't have all the answers and that most of them can be found in science.Like today in class the teacher said it's a great sin to have doubts in your religion,but I can't help to wonder is it all true? See in religion there are books and other things as evidence.Only evidence and we have nothing else to base the facts on.Did it really happen,could it have happened? Seems like you have to belive it blindfolded and even if it seems like impossible.I respect every religion but can't belive it without more concrete evidence.What to do?
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Post by iBig. » December 23, 2013, 2:47 pm
I think its great that you think that, most of muslims or other very religious people cannot even think about the fact that not everything goes like the book says, or there is more than the book tells.
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Post by Fatal » December 23, 2013, 2:50 pm
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I think its great that you think that, most of muslims or other very religious people cannot even think about the fact that not everything goes like the book says, or there is more than the book tells.
I'm Roman Catholic and I know some things don't go as the book say. So yeah, it's a good feeling.
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Post by Blind » December 23, 2013, 2:52 pm
Armin wrote:
Hi,I'm a muslim and sometimes I get the feeling that religion doesn't have all the answers and that most of them can be found in science.Like today in class the teacher said it's a great sin to have doubts in your religion,but I can't help to wonder is it all true? See in religion there are books and other things as evidence.Only evidence and we have nothing else to base the facts on.Did it really happen,could it have happened? Seems like you have to belive it blindfolded and even if it seems like impossible.I respect every religion but can't belive it without more concrete evidence.What to do?
You don't believe/trust anything without any proofs... Thats what you have to do. Thats at least what i do, thats why i got reported for... Because there are people believing in something that has no "concrete evidences"(as you said) that it had ever existed.

The facts are true. The truth hurts the people (religious for this matter).
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJwhqhqBtbo[/youtube]
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Post by iBig. » December 23, 2013, 3:29 pm
[Lsrcr]Blind wrote:
Armin wrote:
Hi,I'm a muslim and sometimes I get the feeling that religion doesn't have all the answers and that most of them can be found in science.Like today in class the teacher said it's a great sin to have doubts in your religion,but I can't help to wonder is it all true? See in religion there are books and other things as evidence.Only evidence and we have nothing else to base the facts on.Did it really happen,could it have happened? Seems like you have to belive it blindfolded and even if it seems like impossible.I respect every religion but can't belive it without more concrete evidence.What to do?
You don't believe/trust anything without any proofs... Thats what you have to do. Thats at least what i do, thats why i got reported for... Because there are people believing in something that has no "concrete evidences"(as you said) that it had ever existed.

The facts are true. The truth hurts the people (religious for this matter).
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJwhqhqBtbo[/youtube]
Cool video lol, wats the song used on it o:
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Post by *Sunday* » December 23, 2013, 3:33 pm
You think doubting your religion is sin? No, blindly believing in everything you've been told is a greater sin than that. What do you think, why did God create evil, why doesn't he just show up on Earth so everybody becomes a believer? He wants to test you, to make your doubt your religion. Only if you doubt your religion you'll be able to see things objectively and then in the end you'll decide what you truly believe in. That is exactly God's plan, he gave us freedom to choose our own path. Doubting is just a human response when we believe something isn't true and we want to find the truth, the right path. Let me put it in an example: You want to find out if somebody is really strong, what will you do? Test him. He can say that he's strong as much as he wants but the truth will be found out when you test him. Same thing with evil. God tests humans with evil, if you manage to stay good and on the right path after all the tests you're good, if not you've turned to evil. You can say you're good as much as you want but in the end your actions are all that matters. Not really the best example but I hope you understand what I wanna say.

And don't be afraid to believe in any other religion than Islam. God surely has a reason why other religions exist. In fact, there is no right religion. Every religion just has a different way to view the same reality, all that has really changed is your point of view. Things can stay the same but if you change your point of view they seem so different. Even if you're not religious you surely have some morals. You surely wanna be a better person, don't you? Well, religion is all about that anyway, being better and closer to God. And in the end it all comes to how much you can love others and be good by heart. Nothing else really matters.

Anyway, I believe this topic should be moved to the R&C forum. This could easily turn into a debate.
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Post by Blind » December 23, 2013, 3:56 pm
*Sunday* wrote:
You think doubting your religion is sin? No, blindly believing in everything you've been told is a greater sin than that. What do you think, why did God create evil, why doesn't he just show up on Earth so everybody becomes a believer? He wants to test you, to make your doubt your religion. Only if you doubt your religion you'll be able to see things objectively and then in the end you'll decide what you truly believe in. That is exactly God's plan, he gave us freedom to choose our own path. Doubting is just a human response when we believe something isn't true and we want to find the truth, the right path. Let me put it in an example: You want to find out if somebody is really strong, what will you do? Test him. He can say that he's strong as much as he wants but the truth will be found out when you test him. Same thing with evil. God tests humans with evil, if you manage to stay good and on the right path after all the tests you're good, if not you've turned to evil. You can say you're good as much as you want but in the end your actions are all that matters. Not really the best example but I hope you understand what I wanna say.

And don't be afraid to believe in any other religion than Islam. God surely has a reason why other religions exist. In fact, there is no right religion. Every religion just has a different way to view the same reality, all that has really changed is your point of view. Things can stay the same but if you change your point of view they seem so different. Even if you're not religious you surely have some morals. You surely wanna be a better person, don't you? Well, religion is all about that anyway, being better and closer to God. And in the end it all comes to how much you can love others and be good by heart. Nothing else really matters.

Anyway, I believe this topic should be moved to the R&C forum. This could easily turn into a debate.
So, do you believe in GOD, Allah, or whoever?
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Post by EvolutionJr » December 23, 2013, 3:57 pm
First of all,
*Sunday* wrote:
Anyway, I believe this topic should be moved to the R&C forum. This could easily turn into a debate.

Trust in your faith, believe what your religion says. If you believe in it you don't need concrete evidence.
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Post by JohnCarer » December 23, 2013, 4:00 pm
[Lsrcr]Fatal wrote:
I'm Roman Catholic and I know some things don't go as the book say. So yeah, it's a good feeling.
romantic you say :# :#

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Post by Tamer » December 23, 2013, 4:03 pm
Armin wrote:
Hi,I'm a muslim and sometimes I get the feeling that religion doesn't have all the answers and that most of them can be found in science.Like today in class the teacher said it's a great sin to have doubts in your religion,but I can't help to wonder is it all true? See in religion there are books and other things as evidence.Only evidence and we have nothing else to base the facts on.Did it really happen,could it have happened? Seems like you have to belive it blindfolded and even if it seems like impossible.I respect every religion but can't belive it without more concrete evidence.What to do?
God wont punish anyone who asks questions. Dumb people won't ask questions because they were not touched by god.
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- Violent opposition.
- Acceptance.
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