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New higher tier businesses (Primarily for robbing, but open for new priorities)

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Post by Richano » August 6, 2021, 6:24 pm
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Suggestion headline: New higher tier businesses (Primarily for robbing, but open for new priorities)
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This suggestion's main purpose is to pick up the server's main gamemode, Cops and "Robbers". Everyone can agree with me that the server is pure cophunting at the moment.

I had something in mind that would do the exact same as inside track robberies, but with more preparing (since it's a higher tier business with more security). You do not only need a dynamite, but also for example the need to either hack cameras or drill first to get to the vault. Or even a combination of these two. We will keep it simple, and not as complicated as a GTA V heist. You might as well need to pay security guards if they are guarding the vault. There are obviously possibilities to fail the robbery.

An example of how a robbery would look like if it was implemented
Either buy a hacking device from blackmarket (or somewhere else) or rob it somewhere.

Same goes for the drill, buyable. You can also steal it from the construction site in LV.

Once you've gathered all these parts, you'll receive a dialog which explains how you should do the actual robbery:

Go to the business and start hacking the cameras so that the alarm won't trigger once you enter the vault. If there are guards, bribe them.

Once you reach the vault, you need to drill the vault for 30 seconds. (I need more opinions on the 30 seconds timer, since you will get wanted once you start drilling. Should it be longer? Or shorter?).

After you've drilled the vault, you'll get the money instantly.
We could also give these businesses more priorities other than it being robbable. I still need more information about this, so suggestions leading to this would help a lot.
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Post by Squanix » August 6, 2021, 7:31 pm
Yess then since the businesses gonna be all over san andreas, I don't agree with 30 seconds, it should be different in some locs, I mean if the location so far from the LSPD/LVPD/SFPD, It should be like 40 seconds or even 60 seconds because its hard for cops to arrive in bit time, I am not helping the police side but just to be it fair for both sides.

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Post by Richano » August 6, 2021, 7:37 pm
Squanix wrote:
Yess then since the businesses gonna be all over san andreas, I don't agree with 30 seconds, it should be different in some locs, I mean if the location so far from the LSPD/LVPD/SFPD, It should be like 40 seconds or even 60 seconds because its hard for cops to arrive in bit time, I am not helping the police side but just to be it fair for both sides.
Timers in LV/SF will be higher opposed to timers in LS.

A quick note, it's easier if you rob with a group of people, like 3 or so. You can let 2 people wait outside to battle with any cops coming their way which will act like your defense.
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Post by Squanix » August 6, 2021, 7:59 pm
Richano wrote:
Squanix wrote:
Yess then since the businesses gonna be all over san andreas, I don't agree with 30 seconds, it should be different in some locs, I mean if the location so far from the LSPD/LVPD/SFPD, It should be like 40 seconds or even 60 seconds because its hard for cops to arrive in bit time, I am not helping the police side but just to be it fair for both sides.
Timers in LV/SF will be higher opposed to timers in LS.

A quick note, it's easier if you rob with a group of people, like 3 or so. You can let 2 people wait outside to battle with any cops coming their way which will act like your defense.

Great idea..

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Post by FeinT. » August 6, 2021, 11:44 pm
I do support this suggestion, I mean you guys are going to need a custom mapped ineterior for this right?
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Post by FeinT. » August 7, 2021, 12:27 am
Also since it is more complicated than a bank robbery, you should at least get 15K for robbing, or even a better idea. You'll get money based on how much time you did spend robbing the vault, I mean in LS you need to wait at least 20 seconds, and 60 seconds max, when you pass 20 secs you can press alt to just finish the robbery and get less money than you'll get for waiting 60 seconds or if you wait completely 60 seconds you'll get much more money than the 20 seconds robbery. (eg: 20 seconds = 11K, 30 secs = 16/19K, and 40 seconds = 23/25K etc...) Because you should get more money for the more time you wait. This reminds me of the single player Mission :D. Also I suggest to make it a bit more complicated where there 2 types of security guards that you can bribe. The one that's at the main entrance, you can bribe him, and the second one is guarding the vault. You can bribe him too. I mean there could be other guards that are at the security room but they won't notice since you hacked the cameras so you only have to bribe only the ones that are outside of the security room. Well you could say that the second guard is useless but no, because the vault would be in a locked room and you need to pay him so that he opens room. Then you can basically drill the vault and get the money depends on how much time you wait.

I mean this isn't very "hard" to script (nothing is really hard, Hence why the quotation marks) because I've done Pawn scripting before and this shouldn't be "hard" so yes I mean the hard part could only be mapping the interior so.
Let me re-phrase again
Either buy a hacking device from blackmarket (or somewhere else) or rob it somewhere.

Same goes for the drill, buyable. You can also steal it from the construction site in LV.

Once you've gathered all these parts, you'll receive a dialog which explains how you should do the actual robbery:

Go to the business and start hacking the cameras so that the alarm won't trigger and the guards at the security room won't notice. Also don't forget to bribe both guards at the main entrance and the one guarding the vault.

Once you reach the vault, you need to drill the vault for X seconds. (I did say X because it depends on the location of the business). The more time you spend robbing the vault the more money you get.

After you've drilled the vault, you'll get the money instantly. (Once again it depends on the time you spent robbing the vault).

My suggetions are pretty simple.
-1: The more time you wait the more money you get (Realistic)
-2: 2 types of security guards that can be bribed (This is realistic too I think)
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Post by Fla$h » August 7, 2021, 1:01 am
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It's a really cool idea which will bring new vibes to the server and also it's more complicated than robbing the bank and such plus you should be getting more money than the bank so let's say 50k minimum if they finish the robbery without any interruptions which will be great.

Note: in case this is will be accepted, I would love to make a quick trailer before the release.
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Post by Richano » August 7, 2021, 2:23 am
FeinT. wrote:
Also since it is more complicated than a bank robbery, you should at least get 15K for robbing, or even a better idea. You'll get money based on how much time you did spend robbing the vault, I mean in LS you need to wait at least 20 seconds, and 60 seconds max, when you pass 20 secs you can press alt to just finish the robbery and get less money than you'll get for waiting 60 seconds or if you wait completely 60 seconds you'll get much more money than the 20 seconds robbery. (eg: 20 seconds = 11K, 30 secs = 16/19K, and 40 seconds = 23/25K etc...) Because you should get more money for the more time you wait. This reminds me of the single player Mission :D. Also I suggest to make it a bit more complicated where there 2 types of security guards that you can bribe. The one that's at the main entrance, you can bribe him, and the second one is guarding the vault. You can bribe him too. I mean there could be other guards that are at the security room but they won't notice since you hacked the cameras so you only have to bribe only the ones that are outside of the security room. Well you could say that the second guard is useless but no, because the vault would be in a locked room and you need to pay him so that he opens room. Then you can basically drill the vault and get the money depends on how much time you wait.

I mean this isn't very "hard" to script (nothing is really hard, Hence why the quotation marks) because I've done Pawn scripting before and this shouldn't be "hard" so yes I mean the hard part could only be mapping the interior so.
Let me re-phrase again
Either buy a hacking device from blackmarket (or somewhere else) or rob it somewhere.

Same goes for the drill, buyable. You can also steal it from the construction site in LV.

Once you've gathered all these parts, you'll receive a dialog which explains how you should do the actual robbery:

Go to the business and start hacking the cameras so that the alarm won't trigger and the guards at the security room won't notice. Also don't forget to bribe both guards at the main entrance and the one guarding the vault.

Once you reach the vault, you need to drill the vault for X seconds. (I did say X because it depends on the location of the business). The more time you spend robbing the vault the more money you get.

After you've drilled the vault, you'll get the money instantly. (Once again it depends on the time you spent robbing the vault).

My suggetions are pretty simple.
-1: The more time you wait the more money you get (Realistic)
-2: 2 types of security guards that can be bribed (This is realistic too I think)
I'll take this into account when it gets accepted. Thank you.
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Post by Karu_Tepes » August 8, 2021, 12:39 am
I just wanna ask/suggest this...

Is it possible to make these special businesses player owned? Maybe we could buy upgraded vaults, security, insurance, and so on, and also let players rob and purchase things from them?
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Post by Richano » August 8, 2021, 3:06 pm
Karu_Tepes wrote:
I just wanna ask/suggest this...

Is it possible to make these special businesses player owned? Maybe we could buy upgraded vaults, security, insurance, and so on, and also let players rob and purchase things from them?
It would be possible, but also probably more complicated for our current playerbase. Making the business player owned is a good idea however.
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