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I want to keep this topic as civilized as possible.
Imagine for a moment that you were apart of a culture, and in this culture was the oppressive belief that wanting good things was frowned upon. Your not supposed to want a safe neighborhood, safe schools, a good job, to want to vote, or improve society whatsoever.
If you do want these things, your peers will frown upon you. You are labled an "uncle tom" for going to school and getting your education so that you can be successfull. People will ridicule you for using proper grammar, and dressing like you have respect for yourself.
Meanwhile, this same society puts those who do the opposite on a pedestal.
The positive things become, drug dealing, drug using, carrying a firearm illegaly, joining gangs, blaming white people for your problems, sagging your pants and wearing shitty bagged up clothing, robbing people, being a general plague upon society, and listening to or making rap music about the things I just mentioned.
You might be thinking, wait a minute Lacky, that's racist.
That's their defence against outsiders who criticize their culture for these things.
Assume your white.
Imagine this scenario, you press a button to call an elevator, the doors open, inside the elevator is a snake.
You don't know if it will bite you, but your common sense tells you it could, so you decide not to get in the elevator.
That doesn't make you racist against the snake.
Now imagine the same scenario, but this time when the doors open you see 3 guys listening to rap music, smoking in the elevator, and wearing baggy clothing while sagging their pants to their knees. They probably won't attack you, but common sense says they might.
You decide not to get in the elevator and it makes you a racist.
Other people of different cultures are afraid to say anything because they get labled a racist, and in many cases even get physicaly attacked. And people within the culture who actually want positive change and to contribute to society are afraid of being labled a snitch or an uncle tom. It's gotten to the point where many white people don't understand the difference between a "nigga" and a black man.
This just feeds the cycle that started the problem in the first place.
A nigga is some one who believes nothing they can do can change society for the better and refuses to contribute to it.
And he doesn't have to be black, he can be of any race, but for some reason, this seems to be a larger issue with black Americans.
They choose to remain chained to this belief like a slave, while a free black man seeks to change the society he is apart of for the better.
In the united states, blacks account for 13 percent of the population, and yet are responsible for over 50 percent of the murders in this country. Cities like detriot, chicago, and baltimore have become warzones. The number of black-on-black shootings in the US DWARFS the number of police-on-black shootings. Yet, when a single fatal police shooting occurs, the entire culture goes insane blaming violence on the white man, regardless of if the suspect were armed or not. They protest that black lives matter, as long as its white on black shootings that is. Blacks killed by blacks don't seem to matter. Either way, the white man gets blamed for all of the problems.
I think that regular law abiding, tax paying, productive citizens in black communities in this country are afraid to speak out against the violent culture that oppresses them. Those that are usually decide to join them cause they can't beat them. If it's not that, perhaps they are unaware of the REAL problem?
The white man as a result could not possibly solve a problem like this.
The question posed in this thread is, how do you solve the problem of violence and negativity within a culture?
Imagine for a moment that you were apart of a culture, and in this culture was the oppressive belief that wanting good things was frowned upon. Your not supposed to want a safe neighborhood, safe schools, a good job, to want to vote, or improve society whatsoever.
If you do want these things, your peers will frown upon you. You are labled an "uncle tom" for going to school and getting your education so that you can be successfull. People will ridicule you for using proper grammar, and dressing like you have respect for yourself.
Meanwhile, this same society puts those who do the opposite on a pedestal.
The positive things become, drug dealing, drug using, carrying a firearm illegaly, joining gangs, blaming white people for your problems, sagging your pants and wearing shitty bagged up clothing, robbing people, being a general plague upon society, and listening to or making rap music about the things I just mentioned.
You might be thinking, wait a minute Lacky, that's racist.
That's their defence against outsiders who criticize their culture for these things.
Assume your white.
Imagine this scenario, you press a button to call an elevator, the doors open, inside the elevator is a snake.
You don't know if it will bite you, but your common sense tells you it could, so you decide not to get in the elevator.
That doesn't make you racist against the snake.
Now imagine the same scenario, but this time when the doors open you see 3 guys listening to rap music, smoking in the elevator, and wearing baggy clothing while sagging their pants to their knees. They probably won't attack you, but common sense says they might.
You decide not to get in the elevator and it makes you a racist.
Other people of different cultures are afraid to say anything because they get labled a racist, and in many cases even get physicaly attacked. And people within the culture who actually want positive change and to contribute to society are afraid of being labled a snitch or an uncle tom. It's gotten to the point where many white people don't understand the difference between a "nigga" and a black man.
This just feeds the cycle that started the problem in the first place.
A nigga is some one who believes nothing they can do can change society for the better and refuses to contribute to it.
And he doesn't have to be black, he can be of any race, but for some reason, this seems to be a larger issue with black Americans.
They choose to remain chained to this belief like a slave, while a free black man seeks to change the society he is apart of for the better.
In the united states, blacks account for 13 percent of the population, and yet are responsible for over 50 percent of the murders in this country. Cities like detriot, chicago, and baltimore have become warzones. The number of black-on-black shootings in the US DWARFS the number of police-on-black shootings. Yet, when a single fatal police shooting occurs, the entire culture goes insane blaming violence on the white man, regardless of if the suspect were armed or not. They protest that black lives matter, as long as its white on black shootings that is. Blacks killed by blacks don't seem to matter. Either way, the white man gets blamed for all of the problems.
I think that regular law abiding, tax paying, productive citizens in black communities in this country are afraid to speak out against the violent culture that oppresses them. Those that are usually decide to join them cause they can't beat them. If it's not that, perhaps they are unaware of the REAL problem?
The white man as a result could not possibly solve a problem like this.
The question posed in this thread is, how do you solve the problem of violence and negativity within a culture?
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- [Lsrcr]CXdur
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Most people are pushed into these things. It's not a good life, and I really doubt that even the majority of them would wish it upon themselves from childhood. In the U.S it's a big problem, but the government has a lot of the blame here.
About black killing blacks, yes, people don't care as much as if it had been a black killing a white or the opposite. The same applies to white people killing other white people. It gets more attention if there are different races.
About the United States, the country's spreading of wealth is completely utter shit, and you can blame the government that all these gangs exist. Had they had more welfare services to help these people, they would maybe not have needed to live in crime in order to make a living.
About xenophobia, this does not apply to all white men. I have no issues walking around people, even if they might look a bit "shady", and I know for a fact that a lot of people don't. You really need to stop making assumptions based on people's colors, keep in mind there are white people living like these people too. However, when right wing parties rule across the world, this will become just a bigger problem (like Trump is making it a bigger problem in the U.S right now!).
And feel free to blame the white men for their problems, after all, the majority of the U.S politicians are white!
About cops killing black / white men, I am glad this gets much attention. This is a huge problem in the United States, and the cops lack training. The fact that they haven't done much to better the situation either is a disgrace for America. For instance, 2017 was the safest years for cops in 50 years, however people murdered by police has reached epidemic levels.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/2017-s ... -citizens/
You should watch The Wire by the way.
Anyway, the United States is a fucked up country in these ways, and most European countries for instance aren't this bad.
About black killing blacks, yes, people don't care as much as if it had been a black killing a white or the opposite. The same applies to white people killing other white people. It gets more attention if there are different races.
About the United States, the country's spreading of wealth is completely utter shit, and you can blame the government that all these gangs exist. Had they had more welfare services to help these people, they would maybe not have needed to live in crime in order to make a living.
About xenophobia, this does not apply to all white men. I have no issues walking around people, even if they might look a bit "shady", and I know for a fact that a lot of people don't. You really need to stop making assumptions based on people's colors, keep in mind there are white people living like these people too. However, when right wing parties rule across the world, this will become just a bigger problem (like Trump is making it a bigger problem in the U.S right now!).
And feel free to blame the white men for their problems, after all, the majority of the U.S politicians are white!
About cops killing black / white men, I am glad this gets much attention. This is a huge problem in the United States, and the cops lack training. The fact that they haven't done much to better the situation either is a disgrace for America. For instance, 2017 was the safest years for cops in 50 years, however people murdered by police has reached epidemic levels.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/2017-s ... -citizens/
You should watch The Wire by the way.
Anyway, the United States is a fucked up country in these ways, and most European countries for instance aren't this bad.
Yes let’s gripe about a problem we don’t know about and don’t have updated facts to about a country we don’t like, because of political stuff we don’t agree with and solely blame one spicific race that’s paying the price for the “wronged” party to have privileges that the other race groups is almost completely excluded from even if that race group is below the poverty line to point where if lowered more could mean they lose everything.
The black people have more privilages in the way of welfare, Medicare, then most but choose to do crime because doing “hard labor” is beneath them. Blacks commonly boast about riding the system and making others pay for it so often if it was recorded and granted to you you’re argument would be significantly different, affermitive action was put in place in the 1960s for blacks to get jobs (without even having the qualifications for doing said job) but whites who need the same treatment in today’s time get rejected because they are “not eligible” because of the color of The “white privilege” assumption,
Also I’ve personally watched black on white crimes happen but never make it to the news because if the blacks are the shooters (or suspects) they can’t be the victims right? But as soon as a white person is supposedly at fault it gets televised before any evidence is brought to light (even if it’s merely assumption based on nothing more then words.)
Legit by saying what you’re saying is pushing an agenda that’s no better then the reverse and the past issues regarding the race groups is reborn. At this point you might as well take a kkk robe and paint it black, put gang members in it to attack whites who have done no wrong it’s only repeating the very same past with different races affected.
The government wants a white vs blacks, left vs right America because then we won’t rise up against them because we are too busy fighting amongst ourselves and what you are doing by blaming one spicific party/race group for past issues while claiming it’s relevant and recent is supporting the same corruption and racism you claim to despise. It’s hypocrisy at its finest. I mean no offense and I mean no disrespect but you need to understand that what you are saying isn’t correct and if you choose to disregard what I have to say for a bunch of propaganda on the internet then maybe there a reason ignorances runs rampant in other countries about issues like this.
The black people have more privilages in the way of welfare, Medicare, then most but choose to do crime because doing “hard labor” is beneath them. Blacks commonly boast about riding the system and making others pay for it so often if it was recorded and granted to you you’re argument would be significantly different, affermitive action was put in place in the 1960s for blacks to get jobs (without even having the qualifications for doing said job) but whites who need the same treatment in today’s time get rejected because they are “not eligible” because of the color of The “white privilege” assumption,
Also I’ve personally watched black on white crimes happen but never make it to the news because if the blacks are the shooters (or suspects) they can’t be the victims right? But as soon as a white person is supposedly at fault it gets televised before any evidence is brought to light (even if it’s merely assumption based on nothing more then words.)
Legit by saying what you’re saying is pushing an agenda that’s no better then the reverse and the past issues regarding the race groups is reborn. At this point you might as well take a kkk robe and paint it black, put gang members in it to attack whites who have done no wrong it’s only repeating the very same past with different races affected.
The government wants a white vs blacks, left vs right America because then we won’t rise up against them because we are too busy fighting amongst ourselves and what you are doing by blaming one spicific party/race group for past issues while claiming it’s relevant and recent is supporting the same corruption and racism you claim to despise. It’s hypocrisy at its finest. I mean no offense and I mean no disrespect but you need to understand that what you are saying isn’t correct and if you choose to disregard what I have to say for a bunch of propaganda on the internet then maybe there a reason ignorances runs rampant in other countries about issues like this.
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- [Lsrcr]CXdur
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Indognito wrote:Yes let’s gripe about a problem we don’t know about and don’t have updated facts to about a country we don’t like, because of political stuff we don’t agree with and solely blame one spicific race that’s paying the price for the “wronged” party to have privileges that the other race groups is almost completely excluded from even if that race group is below the poverty line to point where if lowered more could mean they lose everything.Please come with some sources and make sure that you are right about these things. Right now I am not saying you are not, but after a quick google search I found out the quite opposite... Not saying that these are great sources, but I can't find anything proving your statement either (although I haven't looked for a long time), but I believe maybe you are wrong, so please check it up for yourself.
The black people have more privilages in the way of welfare, Medicare, then most but choose to do crime because doing “hard labor” is beneath them. Blacks commonly boast about riding the system and making others pay for it so often if it was recorded and granted to you you’re argument would be significantly different, affermitive action was put in place in the 1960s for blacks to get jobs (without even having the qualifications for doing said job) but whites who need the same treatment in today’s time get rejected because they are “not eligible” because of the color of The “white privilege” assumption,
Also I’ve personally watched black on white crimes happen but never make it to the news because if the blacks are the shooters (or suspects) they can’t be the victims right? But as soon as a white person is supposedly at fault it gets televised before any evidence is brought to light (even if it’s merely assumption based on nothing more then words.)
Legit by saying what you’re saying is pushing an agenda that’s no better then the reverse and the past issues regarding the race groups is reborn. At this point you might as well take a kkk robe and paint it black, put gang members in it to attack whites who have done no wrong it’s only repeating the very same past with different races affected.
The government wants a white vs blacks, left vs right America because then we won’t rise up against them because we are too busy fighting amongst ourselves and what you are doing by blaming one spicific party/race group for past issues while claiming it’s relevant and recent is supporting the same corruption and racism you claim to despise. It’s hypocrisy at its finest. I mean no offense and I mean no disrespect but you need to understand that what you are saying isn’t correct and if you choose to disregard what I have to say for a bunch of propaganda on the internet then maybe there a reason ignorances runs rampant in other countries about issues like this.
Also, let's not forget that a lot of the African Americans had a lot of problems with civil rights, and this has probably also helped contribute to the cause.
Indognito, I might have taken it a bit too far by saying the government is responsible, I didn't mean to say it was the only cause, but the way I see it it is the most significant cause. Other countries don't have nearly as much issues as the US, and politics could definitely have helped better this problem, although probably not solve it!
I am assuming you are from a republician state because what you are saying seems like right wing propaganda. I am not saying you are wrong about everything, you are American and should probably know these things better than me, but do please provide some sources because if not I can really not believe what you are saying.
PS: I'm not sure how trustworthy these sources are.
http://thewestsidegazette.com/finally-t ... ny-whites/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... c6724ea04f
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- [2F2F]jimmyfallon
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The Washington Post lmaooooooo
the same trustworthy source that decided to "invest" time in this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 60a6e819d5
News outlets are dying and struggling to see what the heck to talk about lmao, its just yellow journalism with regards to anything at this point
the same trustworthy source that decided to "invest" time in this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 60a6e819d5
News outlets are dying and struggling to see what the heck to talk about lmao, its just yellow journalism with regards to anything at this point
CXdur wrote:The problem with coming up with sources is due to curruption and greed it often gets pushed down or altered and even completely deleted so that you target the wrong party/people group cause agian they do not want the people to rise up against them, what I speak is not from one spicific party group what I speak is from personal experience (living in these same neighborhoods since the late 90s) I tell people about the struggles so they understand what is like, most people who are in the struggle don’t have a voice and when they do say something often gets shot down by rich and greedy people who choose to abuse rights then try to disallow everyone to have said rights just because they want to exploit others peoples greed and still be allowed to have rights that were taken away. When their exploitation of greed does not work and their affected they then go rioting on the streets and smash up people business and homes who are middle/lower class claiming it’s not fair to them. They often will even frame them for the whole thing too saying it was their fault.Indognito wrote:Yes let’s gripe about a problem we don’t know about and don’t have updated facts to about a country we don’t like, because of political stuff we don’t agree with and solely blame one spicific race that’s paying the price for the “wronged” party to have privileges that the other race groups is almost completely excluded from even if that race group is below the poverty line to point where if lowered more could mean they lose everything.Please come with some sources and make sure that you are right about these things. Right now I am not saying you are not, but after a quick google search I found out the quite opposite... Not saying that these are great sources, but I can't find anything proving your statement either (although I haven't looked for a long time), but I believe maybe you are wrong, so please check it up for yourself.
The black people have more privilages in the way of welfare, Medicare, then most but choose to do crime because doing “hard labor” is beneath them. Blacks commonly boast about riding the system and making others pay for it so often if it was recorded and granted to you you’re argument would be significantly different, affermitive action was put in place in the 1960s for blacks to get jobs (without even having the qualifications for doing said job) but whites who need the same treatment in today’s time get rejected because they are “not eligible” because of the color of The “white privilege” assumption,
Also I’ve personally watched black on white crimes happen but never make it to the news because if the blacks are the shooters (or suspects) they can’t be the victims right? But as soon as a white person is supposedly at fault it gets televised before any evidence is brought to light (even if it’s merely assumption based on nothing more then words.)
Legit by saying what you’re saying is pushing an agenda that’s no better then the reverse and the past issues regarding the race groups is reborn. At this point you might as well take a kkk robe and paint it black, put gang members in it to attack whites who have done no wrong it’s only repeating the very same past with different races affected.
The government wants a white vs blacks, left vs right America because then we won’t rise up against them because we are too busy fighting amongst ourselves and what you are doing by blaming one spicific party/race group for past issues while claiming it’s relevant and recent is supporting the same corruption and racism you claim to despise. It’s hypocrisy at its finest. I mean no offense and I mean no disrespect but you need to understand that what you are saying isn’t correct and if you choose to disregard what I have to say for a bunch of propaganda on the internet then maybe there a reason ignorances runs rampant in other countries about issues like this.
Also, let's not forget that a lot of the African Americans had a lot of problems with civil rights, and this has probably also helped contribute to the cause.
Indognito, I might have taken it a bit too far by saying the government is responsible, I didn't mean to say it was the only cause, but the way I see it it is the most significant cause. Other countries don't have nearly as much issues as the US, and politics could definitely have helped better this problem, although probably not solve it!
I am assuming you are from a republician state because what you are saying seems like right wing propaganda. I am not saying you are wrong about everything, you are American and should probably know these things better than me, but do please provide some sources because if not I can really not believe what you are saying.
PS: I'm not sure how trustworthy these sources are.
http://thewestsidegazette.com/finally-t ... ny-whites/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... c6724ea04f
In regards to welfare it is a form of slavery, self induced slavery which means they have to sign up for it and even when other people explain what it’s intentions are they say “I don’t give a fuck nigga them whites givin they money” because they only care for money gang bangers commonly do this and the reason they are so common is because crackhead mothers only give birth to babies to exploit a part of that “welfare” system, even if fixed would cause the same issues because rich people and the government will make sure that keeps happening regardless of what political views it falls under.
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- [Lsrcr]Gangsta19
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Lacky wrote: The question posed in this thread is, how do you solve the problem of violence and negativity within a culture?Not sure what you mean by negativity but the violence part,you can't solve.It's in human nature to be violent,it's not just a culture thing.
Here's an interesting article/study that further validates my point: https://www.sapiens.org/evolution/human ... evolution/
whether you agree 100% with the study or not,the fact still remains that humans have the potential for violence,so it's bound to happen.Black culture,white culture,green culture ...it doesn't matter,it's in our DNA.
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