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Post by JohnCarer » March 5, 2014, 10:54 am
yes kids commenting politics will definitely solve this problem

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Post by [Lsrcr]PiPo » March 5, 2014, 11:06 am
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yes kids commenting politics will definitely solve this problem
Probably not, but well... doesnt look like the ''real'' politicians are doing a great job tho.
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Post by JohnCarer » March 5, 2014, 9:00 pm
[Lsrcr]PiPo wrote:
JohnCarer wrote:
yes kids commenting politics will definitely solve this problem
Probably not, but well... doesnt look like the ''real'' politicians are doing a great job tho.
that's because it's way more complicated than people realize and there are way more factors than we're all aware

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Post by [Lsrcr]PiPo » March 5, 2014, 9:02 pm
JohnCarer wrote:
[Lsrcr]PiPo wrote:
JohnCarer wrote:
yes kids commenting politics will definitely solve this problem
Probably not, but well... doesnt look like the ''real'' politicians are doing a great job tho.
that's because it's way more complicated than people realize and there are way more factors than we're all aware
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Post by *Sunday* » March 5, 2014, 9:21 pm
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1) Ukraine isn't a part of nothing, URSS stole that part as they divided the most of the countries as "Moldova". Don't talk shit about the US, there was a civil war where nobody got their noses in (like the russians are doing now with Ukraine)

2) Russia got pwned even if their system collapsed or not, that wasn't magic shit, that was because the US owned em and some European countries helped the US even if the US could pwn russians by themselves. Vietnam maybe went into communism but the US fucked up the russian system of providing weapons.

3)The NATO will do what the general order and the generals are not from Somalia as far as I know.

US has a HUGE intrest in Ukraine since is one of the countries near Europe which means near the shield and they can attack Europe faster than if they're in Russia. Of course Ukraine has no money, no oil no shit but it's a security intrest for the US and Europe so that's why they care. If they wouldn't care Obama wouldn't even call Putin for saying him to remove the troops from Crimea.

As for the shileds I can't get hit by shit, it's not a plastic shield, of course the bombs could explode but it would be in the sea instead of the cities.
1. Stole it? I think you really need to double check your history knowledge. The Soviet Union was an union (you'd never guess) of several states. Ukraine was one of those states. Russia never stole anything from Ukraine. So just a second. If you believe that Ukraine should be returned to Romanians since they originally owned it don't you think all North America should be returned to Indians for the same reason? Of course you don't. So please don't use this argument ever again if you're not going to apply it on everything.

2. Okay mister History man, now explain to us how exactly did the US and EU "pwn" the Soviet Union. Just because the Soviet Union collapsed doesn't mean the US necessary pwned them. So if Spain is in a debt crisis (oh sounds familiar?) does that mean Russia pwned Spain because you're NATO and opposed to them? Yep, totally.... Do you see where your logic fails now? Unless you can tell us about the exact methods the US used don't say that they pwned anybody.

3. Are you kidding me? Firstly, NATO isn't run by generals. Secondly, USA isn't the only executive NATO leader which can order countries around, only the country where soldiers are from can order them, NATO is just an alliance which the country can choose to obligate or not. Thirdly, that's not even remotely how NATO works, please go educate yourself about NATO so you don't make such silly claims.

Oh? And that's a valid reason for USA to interfere with Ukraine? So you're saying Russia trying to protect its people in Crimea is wrong and USA invading Ukraine so they can attack Europe is right?

Once again, educate yourself. Those shields don't work as you've imagined them to, they surely make things harder for attackers but you can get bombed easily. You feel safe, you shouldn't. Russia is a large military power, even if they don't win the war your city would probably be grounded. If WW3 breaks out and nuclear weapons get used, trust me, not only Russia will be a deathzone, the whole world will. Europe, North America, Russia... everything will be ruined and devastated.
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Post by iBig. » March 7, 2014, 3:20 pm
Wolfman93 wrote:
*Sunday* wrote:
1. Stole it? I think you really need to double check your history knowledge. The Soviet Union was an union (you'd never guess) of several states. Ukraine was one of those states. Russia never stole anything from Ukraine. So just a second. If you believe that Ukraine should be returned to Romanians since they originally owned it don't you think all North America should be returned to Indians for the same reason? Of course you don't. So please don't use this argument ever again if you're not going to apply it on everything.

2. Okay mister History man, now explain to us how exactly did the US and EU "pwn" the Soviet Union. Just because the Soviet Union collapsed doesn't mean the US necessary pwned them. So if Spain is in a debt crisis (oh sounds familiar?) does that mean Russia pwned Spain because you're NATO and opposed to them? Yep, totally.... Do you see where your logic fails now? Unless you can tell us about the exact methods the US used don't say that they pwned anybody.

3. Are you kidding me? Firstly, NATO isn't run by generals. Secondly, USA isn't the only executive NATO leader which can order countries around, only the country where soldiers are from can order them, NATO is just an alliance which the country can choose to obligate or not. Thirdly, that's not even remotely how NATO works, please go educate yourself about NATO so you don't make such silly claims.

Oh? And that's a valid reason for USA to interfere with Ukraine? So you're saying Russia trying to protect its people in Crimea is wrong and USA invading Ukraine so they can attack Europe is right?

Once again, educate yourself. Those shields don't work as you've imagined them to, they surely make things harder for attackers but you can get bombed easily. You feel safe, you shouldn't. Russia is a large military power, even if they don't win the war your city would probably be grounded. If WW3 breaks out and nuclear weapons get used, trust me, not only Russia will be a deathzone, the whole world will. Europe, North America, Russia... everything will be ruined and devastated.
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I bet u didn't even read that rofl, not that I did either, so damn long text
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Post by Kaosx234 » March 8, 2014, 8:51 am
Wolfman93 wrote:
[Lsrcr]Big wrote:
Wolfman93 wrote:
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I bet u didn't even read that rofl, not that I did either, so damn long text
Why should I read that shit from her? ._.
Because you are lying about everything, when someone comes with a true story, you just ignore him.

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Post by MaxDSL » March 8, 2014, 10:07 am
*Sunday* wrote:
Wolfman93 wrote:
1) Ukraine isn't a part of nothing, URSS stole that part as they divided the most of the countries as "Moldova". Don't talk shit about the US, there was a civil war where nobody got their noses in (like the russians are doing now with Ukraine)

2) Russia got pwned even if their system collapsed or not, that wasn't magic shit, that was because the US owned em and some European countries helped the US even if the US could pwn russians by themselves. Vietnam maybe went into communism but the US fucked up the russian system of providing weapons.

3)The NATO will do what the general order and the generals are not from Somalia as far as I know.

US has a HUGE intrest in Ukraine since is one of the countries near Europe which means near the shield and they can attack Europe faster than if they're in Russia. Of course Ukraine has no money, no oil no shit but it's a security intrest for the US and Europe so that's why they care. If they wouldn't care Obama wouldn't even call Putin for saying him to remove the troops from Crimea.

As for the shileds I can't get hit by shit, it's not a plastic shield, of course the bombs could explode but it would be in the sea instead of the cities.
1. Stole it? I think you really need to double check your history knowledge. The Soviet Union was an union (you'd never guess) of several states. Ukraine was one of those states. Russia never stole anything from Ukraine. So just a second. If you believe that Ukraine should be returned to Romanians since they originally owned it don't you think all North America should be returned to Indians for the same reason? Of course you don't. So please don't use this argument ever again if you're not going to apply it on everything.

2. Okay mister History man, now explain to us how exactly did the US and EU "pwn" the Soviet Union. Just because the Soviet Union collapsed doesn't mean the US necessary pwned them. So if Spain is in a debt crisis (oh sounds familiar?) does that mean Russia pwned Spain because you're NATO and opposed to them? Yep, totally.... Do you see where your logic fails now? Unless you can tell us about the exact methods the US used don't say that they pwned anybody.

3. Are you kidding me? Firstly, NATO isn't run by generals. Secondly, USA isn't the only executive NATO leader which can order countries around, only the country where soldiers are from can order them, NATO is just an alliance which the country can choose to obligate or not. Thirdly, that's not even remotely how NATO works, please go educate yourself about NATO so you don't make such silly claims.

Oh? And that's a valid reason for USA to interfere with Ukraine? So you're saying Russia trying to protect its people in Crimea is wrong and USA invading Ukraine so they can attack Europe is right?

Once again, educate yourself. Those shields don't work as you've imagined them to, they surely make things harder for attackers but you can get bombed easily. You feel safe, you shouldn't. Russia is a large military power, even if they don't win the war your city would probably be grounded. If WW3 breaks out and nuclear weapons get used, trust me, not only Russia will be a deathzone, the whole world will. Europe, North America, Russia... everything will be ruined and devastated.
The guy just doesn't see himself from a 3rd person view. Just don't explain him all this stuff, he's not going to change his mind.
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Post by Reda » March 13, 2014, 8:32 pm
Mhmm this reminds me of Israel - Palestine, only did israel steal land from palestine were palestine were in peace since ever untill the jews came.
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