Why isn't logic taught in schools?

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Post by Guntimer » May 9, 2014, 3:52 am
If we're being completely honest here, school isn't about learning. They don't care about that at all, actually. It has become more of a business and a game of memorization than anything else. Do realize that your futures and chances of living comfortably are based on a few standardized tests that usually has nothing to do with what you actually were taught. They don't teach us how to balance a check book, buy a house, open a bank account, etc. Instead, they make us memorize things. The things they make us memorize will not be used by many people, ever, but that's what school is actually about: memorization. How well can you memorize this equation/formula; where is this place located and what is it's significance; who is this person and why is he/she important.
What will this do for our future? We don't need to know what this explorer did; we need to know that it happened, and what's actually going on right now because of it.

They are setting us up for failure because those people in power are getting what they want. They're purposely poisoning us.
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Post by Kaosx234 » May 9, 2014, 7:40 am
Guntimer wrote:
If we're being completely honest here, school isn't about learning. They don't care about that at all, actually. It has become more of a business and a game of memorization than anything else. Do realize that your futures and chances of living comfortably are based on a few standardized tests that usually has nothing to do with what you actually were taught. They don't teach us how to balance a check book, buy a house, open a bank account, etc. Instead, they make us memorize things. The things they make us memorize will not be used by many people, ever, but that's what school is actually about: memorization. How well can you memorize this equation/formula; where is this place located and what is it's significance; who is this person and why is he/she important.
What will this do for our future? We don't need to know what this explorer did; we need to know that it happened, and what's actually going on right now because of it.

They are setting us up for failure because those people in power are getting what they want. They're purposely poisoning us.
Nope. I use like 50 percent school knowledge in my life, for job I will need at least 80 percent. So, I do not agree with you.
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Post by Juice. » May 9, 2014, 4:07 pm
[Lsrcr]Fatal wrote:
I like it how it is now thank you very much

Understandable. They conditioned us to operate like handicapped people compared to them.
We're use to it already and feel like nothing is missing but that is extremely false.


I guess if they conditioned everyone to expect only a Honda in life, news about a buggati
would not be accepted by most. It's brilliant how they set it all up
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Post by Fatal » May 19, 2014, 2:21 pm
A logical person is hard to come by these days. Especially considering that schools began to teach kids how to act and live in different ways before our generation came into being. Because of this fact, the parents, our parents, and not all, but most don't teach their sons how to be gentleman, or how to be a man and be honest and never lie and to always think before acting. My parents taught me this. I consider myself to be logical. I can be impulsive yes, but, I'm logical with most of my situations. But, logic isn't the cream on the cake. In order to have the perfect combination, you need common sense (street smarts/smarts), which I also consider myself to have. I grew up in a shitty neighborhood with violence everywhere. So, I really had to think on my feet and I did. Besides that, my father taught me how to be a man correctly. Not to lie, not to make promises you can't keep, look a person in the eyes whilst talking to them, the whole nine yards. So, logic taught in schools? You can't teach teachers to teach logic when they are already teaching, or brainwashing kids to understand how they will be working in the real life and what to do.
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Post by 11PM » June 17, 2014, 10:07 am
Gangsta19 wrote:
we're still human beings (when i say this,i include myself with it)
you sure?

School then would not be retarded and would be useful (isnt that point of school? or, wait.. :/ )
Kaosx234 wrote:
Nope. I use like 50 percent school knowledge in my life, for job I will need at least 80 percent. So, I do not agree with you.
I dont know what school have you finished, but thats kind of weird answer and i find it hard to believe. And, is it actually honest one? (would you mind telling me your profession?)
This is my story
I've finished Gymnasium as my high school, and as you can guess, it was absolutely wrong choice and i have learnt absolutely nothing.
I took a break of 3-4 years and started an IT college (last/this year, decided to give it a try) which i pay 2000$ per year and i still am not happy with the education they provide to their students (yes, it sucks that you pay 2000$/3000KM and you dont get high quality education), but its the curse that comes with school/college, we all "need" that "paper".
Now when it comes to my profession,
an IT "expert" (may i call it that way), with around 7-8 years of active IT "servicing" experience , with pretty good knowledge about computers and programs overall (show-off, bitch please :geek: ), can you guess how much of it have i learnt in school? Let me help you, not even 20%. Im self-taught "student" and i have better knowledge then 80% of my "school/college-partners/colleagues". (i was like 12 years old when i first time fixed someones pc, after that day i just had to work with computers, the feeling was awesome)
Why is that? You tell me.
Im living proof that schools/colleges do not give you education you NEED in real-time situations. They literally flood your brain with information you will, most likely, never need.


Maybe its me being different than others, maybe i dont understand the point of school, its maybe because i (almost) always have different opinion than others do (whatever the subject is), and maybe its me being retarded by saying that school education is not being correct and is almost absolutely wrong, but i can tell you my friend, school education is wrong way to learn something for professional career
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Post by Juice. » June 17, 2014, 3:34 pm
Most useful things are learned after school is completed. The amount of Satanism in a 1-9 year olds learning book is intense.
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Post by Kaosx234 » June 17, 2014, 7:49 pm
[Lsrcr]11PM wrote:
Gangsta19 wrote:
we're still human beings (when i say this,i include myself with it)
you sure?

School then would not be retarded and would be useful (isnt that point of school? or, wait.. :/ )
Kaosx234 wrote:
Nope. I use like 50 percent school knowledge in my life, for job I will need at least 80 percent. So, I do not agree with you.
I dont know what school have you finished, but thats kind of weird answer and i find it hard to believe. And, is it actually honest one? (would you mind telling me your profession?)
This is my story
I've finished Gymnasium as my high school, and as you can guess, it was absolutely wrong choice and i have learnt absolutely nothing.
I took a break of 3-4 years and started an IT college (last/this year, decided to give it a try) which i pay 2000$ per year and i still am not happy with the education they provide to their students (yes, it sucks that you pay 2000$/3000KM and you dont get high quality education), but its the curse that comes with school/college, we all "need" that "paper".
Now when it comes to my profession,
an IT "expert" (may i call it that way), with around 7-8 years of active IT "servicing" experience , with pretty good knowledge about computers and programs overall (show-off, bitch please :geek: ), can you guess how much of it have i learnt in school? Let me help you, not even 20%. Im self-taught "student" and i have better knowledge then 80% of my "school/college-partners/colleagues". (i was like 12 years old when i first time fixed someones pc, after that day i just had to work with computers, the feeling was awesome)
Why is that? You tell me.
Im living proof that schools/colleges do not give you education you NEED in real-time situations. They literally flood your brain with information you will, most likely, never need.


Maybe its me being different than others, maybe i dont understand the point of school, its maybe because i (almost) always have different opinion than others do (whatever the subject is), and maybe its me being retarded by saying that school education is not being correct and is almost absolutely wrong, but i can tell you my friend, school education is wrong way to learn something for professional career
My profession is being a Maths teacher.
Also my step-brother is a programmer, and he is one of the best students in the college because he went in the best school in Split. Croatian's school are pretty good and they educate you really much (at least where I was). If I was not in school, and if I was not learning properly, I would be a hobo today.
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Post by 11PM » June 18, 2014, 12:06 am
Kaosx234 wrote:
My profession is being a Maths teacher.
Also my step-brother is a programmer, and he is one of the best students in the college because he went in the best school in Split. Croatian's school are pretty good and they educate you really much (at least where I was). If I was not in school, and if I was not learning properly, I would be a hobo today.
Thats nice to hear. Now i know 3 high quality schools/colleges/universities in the world, Stanford, Harvard and your :D
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Post by [Lsrcr]Veran » June 18, 2014, 10:24 am
The same system is present today in school. I'm not complaining but i like your idea, indeed.
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