Removal of Swan Off

[The_Fury]

Fury, I hope you realise that this server is based on Cops n Robbers mode. There are other hundreds of servers that are based on Roleplay (totally different than CnR), TDM, Counter Strike, free roam, etc. Since LSRCR is based on Cops n Robbers, that is why people who join here wants to play Cops n Robbers mode, and that is, guess what, cops chasing suspects. If they pick suspect class, they want to be chased or if in groups troll some cops but if they want to be police, they want to chase other people down. If you are implying that COPS = CRIMINALS, where is the difference between a TDM server and CnR server?

Next, I see that you like saying that my arguments are based on reality stuff... What exactly did I mention real life things that go in my favor of this discussion?

then in which law coos can have advantage?

Cops should not be chased if it is a 1v1 situation.

@kaosx x2 saying that I think cops and robbers is a tdm is seriously poor one from you buddy, never ever say I think something about something while you don't know anything, again trying yo say I think cops and robbers is a tdm but I never said I do, lol.

What is the difference between CnR and a TDM server if cops should be as equal as criminals (in your opinion)? Start with the main objection in the game modes.

@kaosx no wtf? Re-read my posts and compare it with yours you will find out that you are the one using real life law here which is "cops should have the advantage" ok if u aren't talking about real life

Look at the bolded part, you are so funny, Fury, I think I should let you argue with your own self, maybe you will win there, just maybe.

My piece of argument that it's a game, many things can happen in a game thus it's not a reality we can do anything in our favors (that's why gamers likes games from the first place, a world within the world in which you can enjoy and have fun along with doing impossible things) oh and tell me In which law can a cop arrest someone in 1 sec using unlimited taser? Oh yeah games law, lsrcr has been always like that and it shall remain like that, you got unlimited taser, many op shit what do you want more? Sawnoff is a slim chance against you guys, this is a game, can't handle it? Don't play it.

The difference between tdm and cnr is, tdm is an equal teams against each others, cnr is cops chasing criminals (vice versa in this game law) if you will say this is not how cnr works I will tell you " this is a game don't expect much".

I can bring you any dumb guy to re-read my post and he would notice you edited my post lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao, woah did I just win and kaosx had to edit my whole post to say I'm arguing with myself? Case closed.

[Kaosx234]

My piece of argument that it's a game, many things can happen in a game thus it's not a reality we can do anything in our favors (that's why gamers likes games from the first place, a world within the world in which you can enjoy and have fun along with doing impossible things) oh and tell me In which law can a cop arrest someone in 1 sec using unlimited taser? Oh yeah games law, lsrcr has been always like that and it shall remain like that, you got unlimited taser, many op shit what do you want more? Sawnoff is a slim chance against you guys, this is a game, can't handle it? Don't play it.

Firstly, you are attacking me that this is not a real life, then few sentences ahead, you are asking me "in which law". Before I start posting, I will ask you, why do you enjoy to contradict yourself.

Let me start. I never used any real life arguments in favor of my point. I said this numerous of times, but someone simply cannot understand it. Hopefully bolding will help you.

In which law can a cop arrest someone in 1 sec using unlimited taser?

in a game thus it's not a reality

Pretty much you argued yourself. To addition to that, not many people can actually arrest in 1 second. If you are going to talk about unlimited taser, then also talk about the taze effect in game and the taze effect that should be. There you go "in which law".

If it is possible to enjoy a game more than before, why not doing it? Now, we are having 2(+1) weapons in game (rest are useless) - the gameplay is VERY static when it is about shooting, and no, this is not fun. If we could bring back rest of weapons by removing just one (or nerfing it badly), the gameplay would be dynamic. Sadly, sawnoff fans, I mean players that are thinking that CnR is TDM. According to you,

The difference between tdm and cnr is, tdm is an equal teams against each others, cnr is cops chasing criminals (vice versa in this game law) if you will say this is not how cnr works I will tell you " this is a game don't expect much".

Cops chases suspects and suspects chase cops. What is TDM? Cops shoots suspects, suspects shoots cops. There, you said that CnR = TDM, good job (if you replace chase with shoots - you got the same definition of CnR and TDM - according to your opinion), and just saying chases = shooting (in LSRCR), before you say anything else.

Oh yeah games law, lsrcr has been always like that and it shall remain like that, you got unlimited taser, many op shit what do you want more?

Unlimited tazes are balanced because taze effects are as equal as 0 (they only stop you for a milisecond then you can run again, yepee), what else cops have, the "op stuff"?

Sawnoff is a slim chance against you guys, this is a game, can't handle it? Don't play it.

Any good sawnoffer can kill any cop in 1v1 situation, and again, if criminals are supposed to kill cops in 1v1 situations, then we are back to a TDM server. Oh do you know what I find funny here, a slim chance called "shooting". Does it ring a bell somewhere, Fury?

I can bring you any dumb guy to re-read my post and he would notice you edited my post lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao, woah did I just win and kaosx had to edit my whole post to say I'm arguing with myself? Case closed.

Just wondering, where did I edit my post? Anyway, check the top of this post, you clearly like to argue with your own self.

[[Lsrcr]Jobin]

And I thought I was discussing with you this earlier how cops should have an advantage if 1v1. Go back to my posts if you are going to quote me, I am not a parrot. I will quote myself only if a new guy starts to share his opinion.

uhnmm im not interested to read all your useless post again. You already flooded this topic with your arguments lol
And the funny thing is you keep arguing for this stupid suggetion

keep posting dude.... lets reach 50th page.

Useless posts that you cannot argue back, huh? Not sure who is stupid here,

No dude its simply because , why should i keep arguing with someone who never understand anything?

[alber]

server called
lost santos roleplay, Cops and robers

Not los santon roleplay!!!
it's not only RP

[Kaosx234]

server called
lost santos roleplay, Cops and robers

Not los santon roleplay!!!
it's not only RP

No one ever mentioned roleplay argument, go back to your gome.

@Jobin, you do not have any solid arguments to prove something to the wall, lol.

[The_Fury]

My piece of argument that it's a game, many things can happen in a game thus it's not a reality we can do anything in our favors (that's why gamers likes games from the first place, a world within the world in which you can enjoy and have fun along with doing impossible things) oh and tell me In which law can a cop arrest someone in 1 sec using unlimited taser? Oh yeah games law, lsrcr has been always like that and it shall remain like that, you got unlimited taser, many op shit what do you want more? Sawnoff is a slim chance against you guys, this is a game, can't handle it? Don't play it.

Firstly, you are attacking me that this is not a real life, then few sentences ahead, you are asking me "in which law". Before I start posting, I will ask you, why do you enjoy to contradict yourself.

Let me start. I never used any real life arguments in favor of my point. I said this numerous of times, but someone simply cannot understand it. Hopefully bolding will help you.

In which law can a cop arrest someone in 1 sec using unlimited taser?

in a game thus it's not a reality

Pretty much you argued yourself. To addition to that, not many people can actually arrest in 1 second. If you are going to talk about unlimited taser, then also talk about the taze effect in game and the taze effect that should be. There you go "in which law".

If it is possible to enjoy a game more than before, why not doing it? Now, we are having 2(+1) weapons in game (rest are useless) - the gameplay is VERY static when it is about shooting, and no, this is not fun. If we could bring back rest of weapons by removing just one (or nerfing it badly), the gameplay would be dynamic. Sadly, sawnoff fans, I mean players that are thinking that CnR is TDM. According to you,

The difference between tdm and cnr is, tdm is an equal teams against each others, cnr is cops chasing criminals (vice versa in this game law) if you will say this is not how cnr works I will tell you " this is a game don't expect much".

Cops chases suspects and suspects chase cops. What is TDM? Cops shoots suspects, suspects shoots cops. There, you said that CnR = TDM, good job (if you replace chase with shoots - you got the same definition of CnR and TDM - according to your opinion), and just saying chases = shooting (in LSRCR), before you say anything else.

Oh yeah games law, lsrcr has been always like that and it shall remain like that, you got unlimited taser, many op shit what do you want more?

Unlimited tazes are balanced because taze effects are as equal as 0 (they only stop you for a milisecond then you can run again, yepee), what else cops have, the "op stuff"?

Sawnoff is a slim chance against you guys, this is a game, can't handle it? Don't play it.

Any good sawnoffer can kill any cop in 1v1 situation, and again, if criminals are supposed to kill cops in 1v1 situations, then we are back to a TDM server. Oh do you know what I find funny here, a slim chance called "shooting". Does it ring a bell somewhere, Fury?

I can bring you any dumb guy to re-read my post and he would notice you edited my post lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao, woah did I just win and kaosx had to edit my whole post to say I'm arguing with myself? Case closed.

Just wondering, where did I edit my post? Anyway, check the top of this post, you clearly like to argue with your own self.

Let me start off from the last part to the first one.

My post included a question but you actually edited your quote and removed my question, I even posted a post bolding my real post which you edited, poor you.


Your tdm argument I pathetic, I kindly agree duelers are kinda retard and running in circles and so on but hey, that doesn't mean we should nerf sawnoff, lsrcr has been always like that, a server has nothing to do with reality, you will say you didn't use reality argument, I will say cnr is made upon reality in samp, so kaboom I win.

Unlimted taser is a 0 balance? Please.. It stops you for like 2-3 seconds which is enough to arrest.


You said it yourself, chases are shooting in lsrcr, which means we can shoot back, you made it easier ty.



The taze effect in game is imaginary which supports my argument of " lsrcr was never meant to be like reality or a real cnr"

I never said you used reality argument but if you didn't then again in which law people can run in circles shooting each other? Lul lsrcr law

Another example for your retardism, when you shoot someone in samp, does he die from 1 shot? No then why is ur ass complaining about sawnoff? The whole samp thingy is imaginary which means you have to try to adapt because it has been always like that : )))))) and as I said if you cant handle it don't play it.

Oooo another win, ik I'm awesome.

[Kaosx234]

My post included a question but you actually edited your quote and removed my question, I even posted a post bolding my real post which you edited, poor you.

Could you please tell me, which part did I edit, quote please.

Your tdm argument I pathetic, I kindly agree duelers are kinda retard and running in circles and so on but hey, that doesn't mean we should nerf sawnoff, lsrcr has been always like that, a server has nothing to do with reality, you will say you didn't use reality argument, I will say cnr is made upon reality in samp, so kaboom I win.

You were saying that this is a game and it is not real life. Now you are saying that this is a game and it has to be real life... wait what?

I said I did not use any argument regarding real stuff, if I would - let's start with taze effect, once tazed you should not be able to stand up for at least 10 seconds (it is 50 000 volts), afterwards, you are not able to /bc after you were cuffed (because how the hell would you break cuffs in front of the police officer). Once you enter the car with the cuffs - you might be able to break them but if there is another officer in the car - you cannot do that. Tazes can be limited but they have more than 20 ammo and restocked by entering the car. Next, if you are going to use the real life argument in this discussion, let's talk about 2 handed weapons, the only normal 2handed weapon are pistols, rest should be removed. Should I continue these real life arguments? There are loads of them, but once again, this is a very light RP, therefore, what you mentioned in past (taze unlimited), it has a reason why is it unlimited and even if you want to limit it - it would be cca 20 ammo + restock in PD car.

Unlimted taser is a 0 balance? Please.. It stops you for like 2-3 seconds which is enough to arrest.

No, if you really thing that it stops you for 3 seconds, count in yourself FULL 3 seconds. 3 seconds is more than you think. It only stops you, then you can again move.

You said it yourself, chases are shooting in lsrcr, which means we can shoot back, you made it easier ty.

Shooting are apart of chases, you either want to be dumb or simply are. I never said that chases == shooting, but that they are apart of it. I am glad that you confessed here that, according to you, a TDM = CnR server.

Here we go, another contradiction from our dear Fury

he taze effect in game is imaginary which supports my argument of " lsrcr was never meant to be like reality or a real cnr"

I will say cnr is made upon reality in samp

I never said you used reality argument but if you didn't then again in which law people can run in circles shooting each other? Lul lsrcr law

What? Could you rephrase this in English language, this question sentence has no meaning.

Another example for your retardism, when you shoot someone in samp, does he die from 1 shot? No then why is ur ass complaining about sawnoff? The whole samp thingy is imaginary which means you have to try to adapt because it has been always like that : )))))) and as I said if you cant handle it don't play it.

Are you and Car brothers? I see that you both like to throw insults into discussions - and then we ask ourselves, why do Admins not tolerate them in-game. You 2 are a living proof. Back on the topic, if you are running away (Straightly from the cop), you can always shoot him whilst running back. You will take his HP, 10 by 10 and he will eventually die.

Thanks to Shaco for showing us his points of the argument, I will put his message in the spoiler, so in case you want to reply me back, please also implement in your post Shaco's part.

viewtopic.php?f=386&t=72599&start=110#p734409

And yeah, you do not need to post "another win" after each of your post because in discussions, there are no winners. Educate yourself before talking

[The_Fury]

My post included a question but you actually edited your quote and removed my question, I even posted a post bolding my real post which you edited, poor you.

Could you please tell me, which part did I edit, quote please.

Your tdm argument I pathetic, I kindly agree duelers are kinda retard and running in circles and so on but hey, that doesn't mean we should nerf sawnoff, lsrcr has been always like that, a server has nothing to do with reality, you will say you didn't use reality argument, I will say cnr is made upon reality in samp, so kaboom I win.

You were saying that this is a game and it is not real life. Now you are saying that this is a game and it has to be real life... wait what?

I said I did not use any argument regarding real stuff, if I would - let's start with taze effect, once tazed you should not be able to stand up for at least 10 seconds (it is 50 000 volts), afterwards, you are not able to /bc after you were cuffed (because how the hell would you break cuffs in front of the police officer). Once you enter the car with the cuffs - you might be able to break them but if there is another officer in the car - you cannot do that. Tazes can be limited but they have more than 20 ammo and restocked by entering the car. Next, if you are going to use the real life argument in this discussion, let's talk about 2 handed weapons, the only normal 2handed weapon are pistols, rest should be removed. Should I continue these real life arguments? There are loads of them, but once again, this is a very light RP, therefore, what you mentioned in past (taze unlimited), it has a reason why is it unlimited and even if you want to limit it - it would be cca 20 ammo + restock in PD car.

Unlimted taser is a 0 balance? Please.. It stops you for like 2-3 seconds which is enough to arrest.

No, if you really thing that it stops you for 3 seconds, count in yourself FULL 3 seconds. 3 seconds is more than you think. It only stops you, then you can again move.

You said it yourself, chases are shooting in lsrcr, which means we can shoot back, you made it easier ty.

Shooting are apart of chases, you either want to be dumb or simply are. I never said that chases == shooting, but that they are apart of it. I am glad that you confessed here that, according to you, a TDM = CnR server.

Here we go, another contradiction from our dear Fury

he taze effect in game is imaginary which supports my argument of " lsrcr was never meant to be like reality or a real cnr"

I will say cnr is made upon reality in samp

I never said you used reality argument but if you didn't then again in which law people can run in circles shooting each other? Lul lsrcr law

What? Could you rephrase this in English language, this question sentence has no meaning.

Another example for your retardism, when you shoot someone in samp, does he die from 1 shot? No then why is ur ass complaining about sawnoff? The whole samp thingy is imaginary which means you have to try to adapt because it has been always like that : )))))) and as I said if you cant handle it don't play it.

Are you and Car brothers? I see that you both like to throw insults into discussions - and then we ask ourselves, why do Admins not tolerate them in-game. You 2 are a living proof. Back on the topic, if you are running away (Straightly from the cop), you can always shoot him whilst running back. You will take his HP, 10 by 10 and he will eventually die.

Thanks to Shaco for showing us his points of the argument, I will put his message in the spoiler, so in case you want to reply me back, please also implement in your post Shaco's part.

viewtopic.php?f=386&t=72599&start=110#p734409

And yeah, you do not need to post "another win" after each of your post because in discussions, there are no winners. Educate yourself before talking

@ first part: How come you are saying shaco's point of argument and then now saying its a discussion? Whatcha smoking bro?
@2nd part: I can't see any links/ messages??

@3rd part: Oooh did you get offended? How old are you? I mean I'm not even 18 but I don't get offended from a random guy over internet, lmao oh btw there was no need to mention car's name, that's immature.
How can I run using m4a1 shooting a cop coming with unlimited taser, cuffs and shit? Please...
@4th part: You can use google translate


@5th part: You wrote in your post chases==shooting if I'm not mistaken, correct me.
However I never said cnr= tdm at least not in samp but in lsrcr, lsrcr got many things which actually makes it a tdm, if you want to nerf sawn-off you should nerf way more Things in return.


@6th part: I used a stop watch to calculate the time, it's 2.5 secs : ))))))

@7th part: That's. What I'm saying, lsrcr is not a cnr server if you want to change that for a simple weapon you have to change way more things, want lsrcr to become a real cnr server? Then I agree else, sawnoff stays.

[Kaosx234]

Before I start, I see you are having the problem with English knowledge and vocabulary (let's not talk about grammar issues). An argument is " A discussion in which the parties involved express disagreement with one another; a debate.". The parties, obviously, involve more than 2 people in it, in this case, in an argument, there can be a third person. So no, I do not smoke anything

Here is the link
viewtopic.php?f=386&t=72599&start=110#p734409

@3rd part: Oooh did you get offended? How old are you? I mean I'm not even 18 but I don't get offended from a random guy over internet, lmao oh btw there was no need to mention car's name, that's immature.

When did I say I got offended, also your style of type just shows how educated and mature you are. If you are insulting the person that has a different point of view, that is immature. As for pointin Car's name, what is immature there? You both share something in common, the love to insult people.

How can I run using m4a1 shooting a cop coming with unlimited taser, cuffs and shit? Please...

We are talking with sawnoff situation, anyone can kill a cop if 1v1 in the chase situation, in this case, suspects chases cops (which is nonsense of a CnR mode, but alright about TDM mode).

Out of curiosity, are you typing your mother language in google translator then translate it in English? Google translator does not translate the meaning of the sentence, and if you want me to reply to your sentences, it should be readable.

You wrote in your post chases==shooting if I'm not mistaken, correct me.
However I never said cnr= tdm at least not in samp but in lsrcr, lsrcr got many things which actually makes it a tdm, if you want to nerf sawn-off you should nerf way more Things in return.

This is what I said (Read carefully paratheses)
chases = shooting (in LSRCR), before you say anything else. . So no, I never said globally that chases == shooting only

What you said is the following thing: "The difference between tdm and cnr is, tdm is an equal teams against each others, cnr is cops chasing criminals (vice versa in this game law) if you will say this is not how cnr works I will tell you " this is a game don't expect much"."

You are saying that TDM is equal teams against each other, in this case 1 of the teams are Cops, while the other team are criminals. And according to you, TDM is that those two groups fight each other (balanced, obviously, if a team would be less balanced, it would ruin the TDM gameplay) and that means, Cops will fight criminals and criminals will fight cops. This is what TDM is, according to you. Now again, according to you, CnR is a mode that cops will fight criminals and vice versa (in other words Cops will fight criminals and criminals will fight cops). Alright, you do not need to be a lot of stupid to understand those 2 bolded parts, do you? At the end, according to you, TDM = CnR.

I used a stop watch to calculate the time, it's 2.5 secs

Are you sure? Who are you making dumb here? Last seen 13 days ago, I took a picture just in case you log in the server now

Spoiler: show

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And please, before you say that you went in an undercover account to test it, just don't - I can get this information from Admins when did they log in [exact time]. Save us our time, because we both know you wouldn't make another account just to do this

That's. What I'm saying, lsrcr is not a cnr server if you want to change that for a simple weapon you have to change way more things, want lsrcr to become a real cnr server? Then I agree else, sawnoff stays.

Read Shaco's points.

[Geri]

No one can beat kaosx.