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Post by David » September 9, 2016, 5:57 pm
As i stated in previous topic, close enough to this, why are these new S.W.A.T. members hungry for score? Just play and enjoy.

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Post by David » September 9, 2016, 6:02 pm
Nikola_123 wrote:
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I like this idea just hard do it and have some issues... I saw some LEO doing /eject to The dragged suspect and then /ar :shifty:
That's the worst part for me, I drag enter my car, and a guy just jacks my ride, and ejects, and does /ar.
Broooooo, you really do have problems with these " , " and " . ", also with big letters.

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Post by Jaker » September 9, 2016, 6:14 pm
davidscorp13 wrote:
As i stated in previous topic, close enough to this, why are these new S.W.A.T. members hungry for score? Just play and enjoy.
They aren't. Regular cops know how dragging works and abuse the system to deliberately steal the suspect SWAT was working hard for. That's bitching.

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Post by Kaosx234 » September 9, 2016, 6:54 pm
When I was a SWAT, this was not an issue since none of my members played for the score but to jail the suspect. Moreover, if you add this in the server, how possibly could a cop help you with several cuffed suspects?

Sorry, but cop is there to help SWAT, "stealing" was invented by score hungry people. Stealing is actually helping.
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Post by Jaker » September 9, 2016, 8:10 pm
Kaosx234 wrote:
When I was a SWAT, this was not an issue since none of my members played for the score but to jail the suspect. Moreover, if you add this in the server, how possibly could a cop help you with several cuffed suspects?

Sorry, but cop is there to help SWAT, "stealing" was invented by score hungry people. Stealing is actually helping.
The issue is, cops in question do this when they know that SWAT already has things under control, but yet they decide to ruin the experience for SWAT members. Moreover, you will always find people who do it continously and on purpose. How would you feel about that?

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Post by Kaosx234 » September 9, 2016, 8:22 pm
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Kaosx234 wrote:
When I was a SWAT, this was not an issue since none of my members played for the score but to jail the suspect. Moreover, if you add this in the server, how possibly could a cop help you with several cuffed suspects?

Sorry, but cop is there to help SWAT, "stealing" was invented by score hungry people. Stealing is actually helping.
The issue is, cops in question do this when they know that SWAT already has things under control, but yet they decide to ruin the experience for SWAT members. Moreover, you will always find people who do it continously and on purpose. How would you feel about that?
If a suspect is arrested without needing of being dragged, I'd be thankful to cops. That is what I was teaching the members. If someone is doing it purposely, it could be possible due your answers to the cop (a troller wants to troll, if he gets the reaction from you, they'll repeat the thing).
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Post by Mastro » September 9, 2016, 8:44 pm
There's no 'stealing' word for me. We are a team, we, Cops/SWAT/Army have the same goals. However it would be better (in terms of respect, even though I don't think that someone who 'steals' is disrespectful or anything like this) and preferable the one who cuffed the suspect, to arrest him aswell.

Questions;

- What about when a SWAT member dies and there's no one else near the cuffed criminal but just a cop?

- What if the vehicle you dragged the suspect into just got on fire, is about to blow up, and you got no car near you in order to drag the criminal?

Those questions because you said 'the server will block you from arresting a suspect that got cuffed/dragged by the SWAT team'.

I understand SWAT work really hard (everyone does let's be honest, nd remember, SWAT are mostly teaming up while cops are usually solo'ing and that makes it easier for the SWAT team to catch a suspect // harder for a cop, plus that SWAT got some special feautures) mostly because of the after-cuffing part (have to drag and drive the criminal to the CP etc) but I don't think that happens too often. I mean, if you drag a suspect, enter the car and fast /lock it and it won't be an issue at all. I understand your frustration though and maybe there should be a new rule, like 'you can't arrest a suspect that just got dragged by the SWAT team unless they told you to' or something like that.

The thing is, SWAT must not be superiors over cops. I, myself have witnessed many times SWAT trying to 'steal' (again, is there such a word?) my suspect, or someone else's (and because most cops are newbies//low scored players everyone is getting advantage of that). In such cases, isn't it considered as 'stealing'? Or maybe because SWAT are not some 'ordinary' cops, they got the rights to? I am not saying you do/did (I never saw you doing that in case you think I am talking about you), nor will I mention names but trust me, your fellow members are doing the same thing most of the times, same applies for Army members aswell. Many hyprocrites that when you 'steal' their suspect they start whining and complaining, while a few minutes ago they did the same exact thing. What an irony. I have 'lost my suspect' countless of times just because of someone else, but I never had a problem about it because after all, that cop did what I wanted/was going to do.

Tldr; If such a rule get implemented, it should be for both cops and SWAT, Army aswell. That means if a cop cuff a suspect, SWAT are not allowed to drag//arrest. For sure, system must not 'block' the player who's trying to 'steal' but a rule that is only being consisted of words. But like I said, there's no 'stealing' and IMO we shouldn't do anything about it.
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Post by Nikola » September 9, 2016, 9:32 pm
davidscorp13 wrote:
As i stated in previous topic, close enough to this, why are these new S.W.A.T. members hungry for score? Just play and enjoy.
You know, back in the 2012 when I was S.W.A.T we also had this problem. Just saying...
And when did you join? 2015? Oh, ok.

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Post by Nikola » September 9, 2016, 9:35 pm
Once again, I did not bash on anyone, I simply suggested, and said if you guys have better suggestions, state them. No need to start a war here. I know that sometimes yes cops might come in handy, however I stated those who simply disrespect my work as S.W.A.T member when I'm trying to do my job, and carelessly steal my suspect, to put in simple words, they take a big shit on my effort. What is there not to understand?
There are many brilliant cops on this server, who I team with daily, but I am talking about the other ones who simply get their score through my effort.

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Post by David » September 9, 2016, 11:16 pm
Nikola_123 wrote:
davidscorp13 wrote:
As i stated in previous topic, close enough to this, why are these new S.W.A.T. members hungry for score? Just play and enjoy.
You know, back in the 2012 when I was S.W.A.T we also had this problem. Just saying...
And when did you join? 2015? Oh, ok.
Why does it matter when i joined if i am better then you (I never cry when people arrest my suspect)
Nikola_123 wrote:
Once again, I did not bash on anyone, I simply suggested, and said if you guys have better suggestions, state them. No need to start a war here. I know that sometimes yes cops might come in handy, however I stated those who simply disrespect my work as S.W.A.T member when I'm trying to do my job, and carelessly steal my suspect, to put in simple words, they take a big shit on my effort. What is there not to understand?
There are many brilliant cops on this server, who I team with daily, but I am talking about the other ones who simply get their score through my effort.
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