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Post by RTGX » March 5, 2017, 3:16 am
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Why should it be accepted: So i have seen alot of new players cuff abusing they go and cuff a civilan then when the 30 second pass he cuff again and again so i suggest a cuff system for cops cuase for sure army and swat members won't do that i suggest to make the cuff on the civilans and yellow 10 second so if someone cuffed a civilan or yellow the cuff will be removed after 10 second not 30 and i suggest if a cop cuffed the same civilan or yellow twice all his cuffs will gone so he will need to refill it and that will give the civilan some time to go away today the cops were weird and cuffing the civilans and i asked them to read /pc but they just kept what they were doing so i hope that you accept my suggest it will help when Admins and experience players not ingame .

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Post by Indognito » March 5, 2017, 3:35 am
I had this happen to me about a day ago I think. It went on for about 45 minutes until the cop left, But I'm not entirely sure if this method is the best method for solving this problem.

If the player is unaware of the rule break then removing the cuffs won't really do it justice, all it will really do is prevent the them from /aring the actual criminals.


Maybe if they get quizzed for cuffing an innocent more then 3 times will help the newer players understand that this isn't how you're supposed to play as cop. It'll pop up just like the dm quiz.

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Post by RTGX » March 5, 2017, 3:55 am
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I had this happen to me about a day ago I think. It went on for about 45 minutes until the cop left, But I'm not entirely sure if this method is the best method for solving this problem.

If the player is unaware of the rule break then removing the cuffs won't really do it justice, all it will really do is prevent the them from /aring the actual criminals.


Maybe if they get quizzed for cuffing an innocent more then 3 times will help the newer players understand that this isn't how you're supposed to play as cop. It'll pop up just like the dm quiz.

if he don't know that is a rule break then we don't have to worry about the criminals but we have to worry about the civilans he can arrest them ater he know the rules and as edit to my suggest i suggest after the 2 cuffs for the same civilan ( All his cuffs will be removed + a messege like the C-BUG messege tells him about that reulebreak )

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Post by Mastro » March 5, 2017, 8:02 am
Well, some players are not fast in typing so 10 seconds might not be enough for them in order to search a player. In addition, some civilians are being really hostile towards the cops and they ought to cuff them. Ten seconds are not enough for the cops to escape/civilians to learn their lesson.

However I like your second suggestion, cops may not be able to cuff the same player more than 2 times in less than 5 minutes or something. That might work. I don't agree with removing their cuffs though, it might cause some confusion because as Indognito said, some players are unaware of this rulebreak.
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Post by RTGX » March 5, 2017, 8:23 am
Mastro wrote:
Well, some players are not fast in typing so 10 seconds might not be enough for them in order to search a player. In addition, some civilians are being really hostile towards the cops and they ought to cuff them. Ten seconds are not enough for the cops to escape/civilians to learn their lesson.

However I like your second suggestion, cops may not be able to cuff the same player more than 2 times in less than 5 minutes or something. That might work. I don't agree with removing their cuffs though, it might cause some confusion because as Indognito said, some players are unaware of this rulebreak.
Wow is there is realy someone can't type ( /search ) is 10 second ? anyway i just want this proplem to be fixed i have been in LSPD all the day doing uncuff for the civilans and telling the newplayers to stop and read /rules and /pc but they kept doing that , so ( Removing their cuffs with a messege like the C_BUG messege tell them about that rulebreak + where to refil cuffs ) would be great and fair i guess .

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Post by Mastro » March 5, 2017, 8:30 am
xGTr wrote:
Mastro wrote:
Well, some players are not fast in typing so 10 seconds might not be enough for them in order to search a player. In addition, some civilians are being really hostile towards the cops and they ought to cuff them. Ten seconds are not enough for the cops to escape/civilians to learn their lesson.

However I like your second suggestion, cops may not be able to cuff the same player more than 2 times in less than 5 minutes or something. That might work. I don't agree with removing their cuffs though, it might cause some confusion because as Indognito said, some players are unaware of this rulebreak.
Wow is there is realy someone can't type ( /search ) is 10 second ? anyway i just want this proplem to be fixed i have been in LSPD all the day doing uncuff for the civilans and telling the newplayers to stop and read /rules and /pc but they kept doing that , so ( Removing their cuffs with a messege like the C_BUG messege tell them about that rulebreak + where to refil cuffs ) would be great and fair i guess .
Yes some are too slow, especially newbies (they are usually the ones who abuse /cuff).

Why would you remove their cuffs if you simply do not let them cuff the same player more than 1-2 times in less than 5 minutes? And yeah a message might pop up e.g ''You are not allowed to abuse your cuffs. Please read the rules.''

I am not sure honestly. What if a civilian is constantly being hostile towards a cop? If the cop is not allowed to cuff the suspect more than x amount of times in less than x minutes or if the cop has no cuffs in order to cuff the civiilian, how are they supposed to take care of the hostile player?
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Post by RTGX » March 5, 2017, 8:34 am
Mastro wrote:
xGTr wrote:
Mastro wrote:
Well, some players are not fast in typing so 10 seconds might not be enough for them in order to search a player. In addition, some civilians are being really hostile towards the cops and they ought to cuff them. Ten seconds are not enough for the cops to escape/civilians to learn their lesson.

However I like your second suggestion, cops may not be able to cuff the same player more than 2 times in less than 5 minutes or something. That might work. I don't agree with removing their cuffs though, it might cause some confusion because as Indognito said, some players are unaware of this rulebreak.
Wow is there is realy someone can't type ( /search ) is 10 second ? anyway i just want this proplem to be fixed i have been in LSPD all the day doing uncuff for the civilans and telling the newplayers to stop and read /rules and /pc but they kept doing that , so ( Removing their cuffs with a messege like the C_BUG messege tell them about that rulebreak + where to refil cuffs ) would be great and fair i guess .
Yes some are too slow, especially newbies (they are usually the ones who abuse /cuff).

Why would you remove their cuffs if you simply do not let them cuff the same player more than 1-2 times in less than 5 minutes? And yeah a message might pop up e.g ''You are not allowed to abuse your cuffs. Please read the rules.''

I am not sure honestly. What if a civilian is constantly being hostile towards a cop? If the cop is not allowed to cuff the suspect more than x amount of times in less than x minutes or if the cop has no cuffs in order to cuff the civiilian, how are they supposed to take care of the hostile player?


i would remove their cuffs cuase simply if they saw the cuff not working on the same civilan they will go and do it with another one and when the 2 times gone he will look for another one and he will keep doing that , got my point about ( Removing their cuffs ) ?

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Post by Astrl » March 5, 2017, 6:27 pm
Changing this just for cops isn't going to happen, it's a bit stupid.

We already have things in place like "you cannot cuff an innocent player so soon" and "you can't search this player yet, he's been searched too soon" etc.

I don't see why it needs changing, besides you get 3 cuffs as a cop before you have to restock again so that's 120 seconds you'd have to wait if a cop abused you, not that long but you can simply just explain the rules to him.
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Post by RTGX » March 5, 2017, 6:33 pm
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Changing this just for cops isn't going to happen, it's a bit stupid.

We already have things in place like "you cannot cuff an innocent player so soon" and "you can't search this player yet, he's been searched too soon" etc.

I don't see why it needs changing, besides you get 3 cuffs as a cop before you have to restock again so that's 120 seconds you'd have to wait if a cop abused you, not that long but you can simply just explain the rules to him.


Yes even if he searched him once and he got no drugs why he would cuff him again at the same moment to search again ? :P and as i said i was explaning the rules but they just look to the other side like am not here and go to keep abusing :P maybe you are right but if cop cuffed a new player for 120 second i guess if i were that new player i wouldn't play here again like i will take a bad look on the server so i just suugest that for the new players who have been cuffed for this 120 second then they just close the server and never saw them again becuase of this 120 second

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Post by Astrl » March 5, 2017, 6:36 pm
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Yes even if he searched him once and he got no drugs why he would cuff him again at the same moment to search again ? :P and as i said i was explaning the rules but they just look to the other side like am not here and go to keep abusing :P maybe you are right but if cop cuffed a new player for 120 second i guess if i were that new player i wouldn't play here again like i will take a bad look on the server so i just suugest that for the new players who have been cuffed for this 120 second then they just close the server and never saw them again becuase of this 120 second
Still a pointless change for such a small reason.

The sheer amount of abuse reports that we get is ridiculous and 99% of the time we don't do anything about them due to other reports taking priority (cheaters etc.)

Also, half the time when we go to spectate someone, they've been cuffed for literally 3 seconds and then they get searched then they report someone, it's dumb.

It's not like the old system where the cops could keep cuffing you every 30 seconds forever, no need to change this in my opinion.
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