SWAT bomb & detonator abuse

[ackman]

Your name: [Lsrcr]Ackman
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Why should it be accepted: Hi? So basically my suggestion is to change the way of detonating swat bomb, current way can be abused and its happening the way more often. So many of SWAT members avoid the animation of planting swat bomb by spamming lmb key. My suggestion is to make it as similar as planting jsb. SWAT members should type the specific command in order to detonate the bomb - just like we do /jsb since it has less chances of avoiding the animation.

Ok so first suggestion ended, now time for second one - recently swat bombers have found a new way to abuse this SSB bomb even though its not their intention but for us (criminals) it is clearly an abuse. What they do? They bring a Water tank and a cop with them, they detonate the bomb and we criminals (if more than 3,4) gets freeze for 6,7 seconds and rest after this can be imagined.

Don't come up with your reply saying keep a jsb with you, we cannot do three commands at the same time because of the police teaming up with you coming to taze us, we mostly end up getting arrested by the police while planting the jsb as we go through the animation while you bombers just have to spam lmb
key.

Either fix this bug of avoiding animation please or change the way of detonating the jsb or change the swat bomb jammer planting process same as swat bomb detonation. Please find the solution of second suggestion as well as it's happening the way more often.

Also accepting the hate over this suggestion because I don't really care about what people think about me

[BeaTen.]

spamming lmb doesn't help u skip animation, I can skip /jsb animation as well as bomb animation without spamming any key

[ackman]

spamming lmb doesn't help u skip animation, I can skip /jsb animation as well as bomb animation without spamming any key

Hi, maybe it doesn't happen so often with you because of game sync issues but what I said is correct as well, I have backed up my words with recordings, so don't think I am passing out random things

[BeaTen.]

spamming lmb doesn't help u skip animation, I can skip /jsb animation as well as bomb animation without spamming any key

Hi, maybe it doesn't happen so often with you because of game sync issues but what I said is correct as well, I have backed up my words with recordings, so don't think I am passing out random things

how can u know that someone is spamming left click, bomb animation getting skipped is rare, its equally rare (almost) to the bug when u press lmb but detonator doesn't work. When I tell anyone that bomb detonator gets bugged, everyone be like its too rare to notice, then I think this is too rare to notice as well

[ackman]

spamming lmb doesn't help u skip animation, I can skip /jsb animation as well as bomb animation without spamming any key

Hi, maybe it doesn't happen so often with you because of game sync issues but what I said is correct as well, I have backed up my words with recordings, so don't think I am passing out random things

how can u know that someone is spamming left click, bomb animation getting skipped is rare, its equally rare (almost) to the bug when u press lmb but detonator doesn't work. When I tell anyone that bomb detonator gets bugged, everyone be like its too rare to notice, then I think this is too rare to notice as well

Because it is the only thing by which they can surpass the animation as it is used to detonate the bomb. Although what do you have to say on replacing it with a way which jsb has? Would be a little harder like it is to us? There's nothing wrong in changing the way of detonating as you'll still get the same abilities available after detonating it.

[CXdur]

Hi, maybe it doesn't happen so often with you because of game sync issues but what I said is correct as well, I have backed up my words with recordings, so don't think I am passing out random things

how can u know that someone is spamming left click, bomb animation getting skipped is rare, its equally rare (almost) to the bug when u press lmb but detonator doesn't work. When I tell anyone that bomb detonator gets bugged, everyone be like its too rare to notice, then I think this is too rare to notice as well

Because it is the only thing by which they can surpass the animation as it is used to detonate the bomb. Although what do you have to say on replacing it with a way which jsb has? Would be a little harder like it is to us? There's nothing wrong in changing the way of detonating as you'll still get the same abilities available after detonating it.

I'll just add that SWAT bomb and /jsb has the exact same animation, meaning that if one can be skipped so can the other. /jsb doesn't work any differently when it comes to animations.

Also, I don't really think it's right to call this abuse. Before the hotfix, the bomb was definitely being abused because SWAT members would bring cops and avoid bringing SWAT in order to maximize the taze time, which obviously wasn't an intended mechanic.

I see this differently though. A SWAT tank isn't really fast and you should be able to spread out by the time it gets there. Also, the SWAT tank is barely ever used for anything so if there's actually a purpose for it I personally find that cool.

[BeaTen.]

Yep, the swat water tank is barely ever used (backup used it yesterday), due to its very slow sleep and high vulnerability, I have no problem in both the animations being the same, as I said, both can be skipped anyway so it doesn't matter. About that bring cops with us thing, criminals also take civilians with them in order to avoid the tank and its an abuse, but not considered an abuse I don't find any problem with that

[Mr.DollarMan]

Yep, the swat water tank is barely ever used (backup used it yesterday), due to its very slow sleep and high vulnerability, I have no problem in both the animations being the same, as I said, both can be skipped anyway so it doesn't matter. About that bring cops with us thing, criminals also take civilians with them in order to avoid the tank and its an abuse, but not considered an abuse I don't find any problem with that

I heard a few days ago that a new permission was granted to the Tank users that, they can engage a car or a group who continuously brings a civilian along with them, however I am not sure about it.
I've seen Swat members taking the unfair advantage of civilians by allowing up them on the top of their vehicle so the vortex killer could get a rules quiz. Swats have way more advantages and if they still abuse in such ways it becomes harder for criminals to escape them.
You said you can easily skip the animation of planting a JSB. Tell us how do you do it.

[RockingJohnson]

Yep, the swat water tank is barely ever used (backup used it yesterday), due to its very slow sleep and high vulnerability, I have no problem in both the animations being the same, as I said, both can be skipped anyway so it doesn't matter. About that bring cops with us thing, criminals also take civilians with them in order to avoid the tank and its an abuse, but not considered an abuse I don't find any problem with that

Yeah mate as u said i can also skip animations of jsb now days cops or leos skip the animations of /blowgate to avoid getting killed.

[BeaTen.]

What I think is that, just like the detonator bug can't be fixed, the bomb animation cant be fixed either, since the cause of the detonator bug was undetermined, both of the bugs are rare but only the animation skip is bothering people because it is in favour of swat, no one is bothered about the other bug where we are unable to detonate the bomb despite planting it because its in favour of criminals...
Also, bomb will never freeze you for 6-7 seconds, not even in 1v10 condition (confirmed by CX), the max time is 4-5 seconds. I will show you how to skip the animation when I see you in game, however I am inactive these days but I will still try to